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General => Roadcraft => Topic started by: ScooterWolf on August 24, 2015, 02:40:48 AM
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Does anyone have a type -- that one kind of driver that seems to constantly cause you problems? For me it seems to be BMW sports cars. I've been aggressively tailgated, passed on a single land road, and cut in front of consistently. Don't know if there is a connection between that brand of car and A--holes with licenses, but I spot them more than others.
Anyone else have a 4 wheel adversary? PU Trucks, SUVs, soccer moms, bus drivers, teens with cell phones? Share your stories, and how you deal (or want to deal) with them.
-Wolf
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I'm going to put in my vote for the mini-van driver. Usually a mom with a bunch of kids she's paying attention to, instead of watching the road. And I can't tell you how many times I have seen her on the phone at the same time. Very distracted drivers! The thought that there may be 2 wheeled riders on "her" road probably never occurs to this person. Cure? I don't know that there is one, other than birth control 😉
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OMG GLV55 I was about to write precisely the same. I would add how they pass on the right and can't see you because they hold their IPhone with their left hand. Leave 2 car lengths at 45 mph and they cut right in front of you.
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OMG GLV55 I was about to write precisely the same. I would add how they pass on the right and can't see you because they hold their IPhone with their left hand. Leave 2 car lengths at 45 mph and they cut right in front of you.
West Central Florida, anything on four wheels over 1,500 pounds is dangerous. Maybe it's the humidity? Pick-up truck drivers tailgate and then pass with no room. large Lincoln Mercury inhabitants make left hand turns right in front of you. 18 to 45'ers text (illegal) non-stop as they swerve from just over the left to just over the right of their lane. There is no doubt the "assault" comes from all areas...
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I sometimes wonder how we're all alive. My wife and I were riding yesterday and a sports car (not a BMW though) was tailgating us. She signaled for him/her -- it to back off. They did so grudgingly. After that she declared that she wants a paintball gun for Christmas. Would give the term 'Tail-gunner' a new meaning.
I know, road rage isn't the answer, but are helmet cams and GoPro cameras the way to go? Could they be used to create a citizens arrest (provided the license plate is caught)?
Great stories. The idea of a a Lincoln Mercury wiping you off the road is pure Stephen King-ish. Damn. I think my first run-in with a bad driver was a soccer mom. I was on a 50cc scooter, and wanted to chase and kick the van's side walls in.
It's perverse, but I want to hear more.
-Wolf
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All of them. They all need to be watched.
Mini van, sports car, bus, truck, scoots and horse and buggy. All other motorists.
I don't see anything when I'm on a bike that I don't see in my car. Same dumb sh**. They don't hunt cycles they drive distracted.
We choose to ride so we accept the dangers. All other vehicles pose a threat.
AMAC
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Large SUV's for sure, they inhibit the driver's view of the surroundings and usually give them a sense of invincibility because they are basically driving a small tank. I have had SUV drivers literally swerve at me, with the intention of hitting me. If someone comes at me on the road, they automatically loose a mirror. I'll give someone who is distracted the benefit of the doubt that they feel bad about it, but you cross the line when it's intentional, that constitutes wielding a deadly weapon IMHO. They will let anyone with cash get a license, scary out there!
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Truth is I remember from the MSF course, "Single Vehicle Motorcycle Accidents" were right there (or exceeded) the number of two vehicle motorcycle accidents. Course material quoted the degree of difficulty of motorcycle operation as nine times that of operating a car. Now while our automatic scooters are certainly easier to ride than manual shifting cycles; they (scooters) are still much more difficult to ride than it is to drive a car. The first person you need to keep an eye on is yourself...
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Truth is I remember from the MSF course, "Single Vehicle Motorcycle Accidents" were right there (or exceeded) the number of two vehicle motorcycle accidents. Course material quoted the degree of difficulty of motorcycle operation as nine times that of operating a car. Now our automatic scooters are certainly easier to ride than manual shifting cycles; they (scooters) are still much more difficult to ride than it is to drive a car. The first person you need to keep an eye on is yourself...
Well put, Papa.
Motorized 2 wheel vehicles are crashing themselves around here all the time.
Alcohol might be involved in some of them - but speed is involved in almost every single-bike accident. Speeding.
Riders cannot blame that on drivers.
(now I'll probably get clipped by an Accord tomorrow)
Stig
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Hope not Stig. Like having you around.
Yeah, I think I may shake my head more at the idiot 2 wheel drives I see around. Over the weekend my wife and I were on a ride on a road with a posted speed of 45 mph. Passing us in the on coming lane was a MC rider standing straight up on his riding pegs, fingers on his handle bar and throttle, and casually riding like that down the road. The road was straight and flat, but full of bumps, depressed manhole covers and occasional potholes. Things that jostle you fully if you're sitting down.
It's his life, but I hope he stays out of the gene pool.
-Wolf
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Hope not Stig. Like having you around.
Yeah, I think I may shake my head more at the idiot 2 wheel drives I see around. Over the weekend my wife and I were on a ride on a road with a posted speed of 45 mph. Passing us in the on coming lane was a MC rider standing straight up on his riding pegs, fingers on his handle bar and throttle, and casually riding like that down the road. The road was straight and flat, but full of bumps, depressed manhole covers and occasional potholes. Things that jostle you fully if you're sitting down.
It's his life, but I hope he stays out of the gene pool.
-Wolf
Pretty normal for a dual sport rider.
Nice to get off the seat and let your equipment air out.
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Might be easier and safer just to pull over. Like I said, it's his life.
-Wolf
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Teens with cell phones and snooty women that seem to think that they are the only ones who own the road
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My story posted on general discussion titled hit and run
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I think the worse part about the use of cell phones in accidents is the lack of enforcement and consequences. I'd love to see people have their licenses automatically revoked if they are responsible for an accident while on their phones. A month suspension if they are caught riding/driving with one.
If the consequences are harsh enough it may give people more of a pause when thinking of using one.
-Wolf
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That's a great idea. If only we could get that law to take effect the roads would be a lot safer I believe
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I totally agree with you, Wolf. Cell phone use while driving is out of control.
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Thanks GLV55. Anyone know how to get a political movement started -- or the law changing equivalent of.
-Wolf
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Let me check into it and I'll let you know something tomorrow scooter
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Unfortunately, it's usually not a problem getting laws passed, it's the enforcement of the law that's the fly in the ointment. It will take the same time and effort to get people into the no texting frame of mind as it did to get people to become accustomed to wearing seatbelts in the 70s. Before then, everyone had the same "it doesn't matter " attitude about seatbelts as they currently do about texting.
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Eventually attitudes changed on seatbelt. Maybe cars need cell phone jamming devices that are activated if the car senses only a single driver, and the car is not in park (or has come to a rest). If people's attitude can't change, let technology stop them.
-Wolf
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Awesome suggestion wolf. I really like that idea
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In Alaska, for two years it has been law no texting in a vehicle. It is punishable to the same standards as a DUI. Only two cases have come out in the press, both involving vehicular homicide. Judges seem to dismiss charges left and right if they get to court. The first question asked of the officer is, "have you ever texted while driving.". After one or two embarrassing times in court, the police don't pull anyone over again. Tech lock out seems to be the only way to stop this.
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Thanks Scooterdad.
Jeopardy,
Based on the police report for my crash not only didn't the cops not conduct a sobriety test for the kid who pulled in front of me, they didn't ask if he was texting/using his cell. I was pretty pissed off about that.
For something that causes so many accidents while is texting and cell phone use while driving taken so casually?
-Wolf
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Because the cops were to busy doing it themselves it seems as though the cops don't care anymore so that leaves us scooter people to fend for ourselves
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Too true. Who polices he police? Maybe a wall of shame for cops on cell phones in their cars, then post it on a a town/city's FB police page.
-Wolf
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Lol yea that's a pretty dang good idea
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