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Xciting 500 / Re: How Crucial is xciting 500 4k Service timing?
« on: September 08, 2017, 03:01:26 AM »
Quote from: willembop on September 07, 2017, 01:12:37 PM
As a retired engineer, I can tell you that the factory service intervals for most equipment are set rather conservatively in order to protect against worst-case problems. You can generally get away with extending those intervals with no ill effects (and here's the catch) but not always. So if you go beyond the recommended service intervals, you are betting that you will be lucky. As a general rule, we allowed 10 percent variance automatically (so a 4000 mile check was fine up to 4400 miles), and in extenuating circumstances, 20 percent was viewed as acceptable (up to 4800 miles). A lot also depends on how you're using it. The factory intervals are for normal treatment. Harder usage would suggest shortened intervals. So as the saying goes, "Your mileage may vary."

What constitutes harder usage? I heard have this before but am at a loss as to the meaning.

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Xciting 500 / Re: How Crucial is xciting500 4k Service timing?
« on: September 07, 2017, 12:34:28 PM »
Quote from: CROSSBOLT on September 02, 2017, 01:57:50 PM
Valve clearances should be at or near top of list if it has not been done yet.

Karl

Can you go into more detail on that one please?

I actually talked with an honest serviceman and he said it's every 4000 miles and since my first service was at or just prior to the 1000 mile mark that getting the next one done at 5k or thereabouts is just fine.

But I was wondering how many Xciting 500 owners take it into their own hands or how much variation they have between suggested service times and when they actually get them done.

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Xciting 500 / How Crucial is xciting500 4k Service timing?
« on: September 02, 2017, 07:17:02 AM »
Hey Guys,

Long Story short, I may have to wait till my xciting500 has almost 5k miles to get the 4k service done, due to financial reasons (just started a new Job, pay cycle is complicated, etc.).

Now, I corresponded with MJR a couple times and I have been meaning to get out there to visit him (which I still plan to do) but because i'm working as a full time manager it's hard to plan that.

What if I do one aspect of the 4k service a week at a time, travel out to do it with MJR, would it definitely be better than nothing, or would it better to get it all done at the same time?

Lastly, from the research i've done and what i've seen in the service manual the following is what needs to be taken care of at the apparent 4k mark.

Oil Filter change
Air cleaner inspection clean or replacement
Crank case breather inspection
Oil strainer screen check/clean
belt diameter inspection.

Did I miss anything?

If I could do all of these one at a time, in which priority order should they be done? berts services are so cost prohibitive that it's making it feel like it's more expensive to have a bike than a car. So the logical thing to do is get out to visit MJR and allow him to teach me these things one at a time and save berts for only Major work like getting the tires changed and such.

Please give opinions on priority order of 4k service items and how crucial it is and what I might be doing to the bike by getting it done late-ish.

The guys at berts say it's "absolutely crucial". Okay but how 'crucial'?

Thanks

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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 19, 2017, 06:28:18 PM »
Quote from: sissymary on August 19, 2017, 05:55:35 PM
Stay away from malossi belts. They are made to be used with their variator only. It is only 1 mm wider when new, than when kymco says to replace the belt! It is not the same size as stock, and it is not as durable. Take it from my experience, it's not worth the savings. Period. :-*
Thank you for being so on point with regard to that. I wanted to stick only to the OEM belt but that listing is very confusing, it says it's a replacement for the xciting 500 belt. Bad mis-advertisement for sure. $152.00 is worth the price of a real OEM belt I think.

The labor costs are what drive me bonkers from berts out here in Southern California.


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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 19, 2017, 06:26:22 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Paul on August 18, 2017, 08:19:34 PM
http://www.kymcopartsmonster.com/p/Kymco-Parts#/Kymco_USA/SAA0AE_Xciting_500/Pulley/2K03110005/2K03110027

Part 23100.  A much safer bet than Ebay.
$152.00 isn't bad for an OEM belt. As long as I can do it myself or not pay too much for labor. I think when the time comes I may do either. Berts Megamall charges an arm and a leg for labor.

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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 18, 2017, 06:41:03 PM »
Quote from: MJR on August 17, 2017, 04:30:15 PM
The one you posted is from Malossi a maker of performance scooter parts. I have no experience with them but maybe someone here has.

Funny how that listing states it is for the Kymco xciting 500.

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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 17, 2017, 04:12:40 PM »
Quote from: MJR on August 17, 2017, 06:02:41 AM
I think this is the OE Kymco one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/KYMCO-XCITING-500-TRANSMISSION-CVT-BELT-/131853026045?hash=item1eb30d82fd:g:2n0AAOSw-W5UvTQB&vxp=mtr

What is the link I posted? Is that a bad after market?

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Xciting 500 / Re: City Grip tires in Virginia
« on: August 17, 2017, 05:53:59 AM »
Quote from: willembop on August 14, 2017, 03:23:08 PM
When I bought my 2007 Xciting 500 from a guy in Richmond, it had a fairly new set of Michelin City Grip tires on it. I like the way the tires perform, and they still look fairly new. The previous owner also provided a brand new set of City Grips, which are sitting in my garage. I got to thinking that when I finally wear out my tires, probably years from now, the new set will likely be deteriorated from sitting so long. Anyway, maybe someone could use them now, rather than having them waste away in my garage. Anyone in the Fredericksburg, Virgina area need a free set of tires?
Would you ship them to Cali? Just curious.

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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 17, 2017, 05:53:03 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Paul on August 15, 2017, 11:02:32 PM
I think it would be best if you would buy an OEM belt and install it. It may or may not be mechanically necessary, but the peace of mind would be so worth it.  :)
Any source on ebay/Amazon that sell it for less expensive than normal?

Is this it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162572469928?ul_noapp=true

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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 15, 2017, 07:01:48 PM »
Quote from: xsel777 on August 12, 2017, 06:48:30 AM
It is NOT an original belt.
It is:
Belt specs:
1025 x 28.9mm x 30
length x width x angle
Gates booster:
9802-41811
9802-40811
I have used both, but can't say what the difference is, is just what was available.

I think the belt  has 20 000km on it already. My odo reads 66000km now.

Sent from my Mi Max using Tapatalk

One of my primary paranoia's and concerns is the belt snapping due to "over working".

I once drove with the break lock half ay engaged for about a mile and that gave me an immediate concern of wearing the belt prematurely.

Any insights you can give on this paranoia of mine?

Thanks.

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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 12, 2017, 04:50:02 AM »
Quote from: AMAC1680 on August 11, 2017, 09:21:43 AM
I would think the 500 is up to doing 80 for an extended period of time. I've done a few 1000 miles trips where I ran for a hundred miles or more at 75 -80 mph/gps without a burp.

That was on a DT300 so why not the 500?

AMAC

I think we should be able to theoretically push our bikes to 85 even without worrying.

My concern is my belt drive. It might be somewhat illogical because on my previous bike (A 150cc SSR Vespa clone) the Belt snapped at 6,000 miles spontaneously.

There was one time I drove with the brake lock engaged on my xciting500 for about a mile, correction it was only half engaged. I suppose I worried that could have caused premature wear on the belt. I currently have about 3,800 miles on the bike. Still feels great on the freeway except the parts that need serious repaving.

I would love for someone, or everyone, to tell me why my belt is likely okay. haha

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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 12, 2017, 04:44:41 AM »
Quote from: xsel777 on August 11, 2017, 05:41:31 AM
Enjoy your ride. I am on the freeway a lot, i go everywhere at  130kmh. I fitted a sports variator, kept the stock rollers and fitted an extra 1mm spacer next to the original, and initially i got max  155kmh at 7500rpm(not for regular cruising, just testing capability) , but now the belt has worn a bit, so the revs are climbing again and at 130kmh revs are at 6500 about.
With this configuration I loose some fast pull away. The belt is a pirate which is way way past the max service distance, but it just keeps on going. I checked it 2 weeks back and it still looks ok. I think with the slower pull away, it has less stress on it so lasts longer.

Sent from my Mi Max using Tapatalk

How many miles do you have on this original belt?

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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 09, 2017, 04:37:16 PM »
Btw MJR I sent you a private message.

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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 09, 2017, 04:36:09 PM »
Quote from: sissymary on August 09, 2017, 03:08:56 PM
I have city grips also, a great long lasting tire. I only tour, I have taken 2 cross country trips on it, (Arizona to Michigan and back). My longest day was 1,004 miles, (drove all night). I wish the gas tank was larger? But the bike can be ridden like a gold wing. I call it the O HOG, as in orange hog. Can't hurt the engine. Over 70'000 miles now.

I think the City Grips will be the tires of choice for me next based on all the positive reviews.

What's the top speed you will 'push' your xciting 500 for on the freeway for any super length of time? I understand our bikes will get a verified top speed of "close to" 100 mph but i've also been told not to "push it" too much, which is kinda difficult on California freeways in terms of keeping safe from impatient and ego centric drivers. I often tend to drive 80 for long periods and have even gone to 90 for a minute here and there with the throttle almost all the way up.

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Xciting 500 / Re: Xciting 500 2016 Model Belt drive, tires and free-way driving questions
« on: August 08, 2017, 06:03:30 PM »
Quote from: MJR on August 08, 2017, 05:46:11 PM
Depends on the tire. The City Grip sizes for my Aprilia Atlantic 500 (120/70-15 front and 140/60-14) are S rated to 112 mph.

Hey MJR,

I didn't know their speed ratings depended on their size. That's great, perhaps I will consider the City Grips next.
Can you comment on what sissmary said about the belt drive augmentation and if it's possible to do when I can make it out to meet you?

At it's young age, belt drive preservation and tires are two of my top concerns.

Thanks.

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