KymcoForum.com
Offroad => Side By Side => Topic started by: jasonrbitt on May 28, 2017, 06:47:28 PM
-
Hi everyone. It's been awhile. Just looking for some opinions. I had a uxv 500 in the past but found it to slow too much on steep climbs. So I bought a rzr570. I recently got ride of it and was looking for something alittle more family oriented. So I was looking into the 450i. Basically had my mind set up. I've Read a lot of reviews that said it felt better than the 500 etc. However I just found a 2016 uxv 700with 80 miles for the same price as a new 450i. For those of u that have either one of these machines which one would you buy? I'm kinda leaning towards the 450i because I have a young son that would still squeeze into the middle of the bench seat. Thoughts?
-
At our shop here in Missouri, we had so much trouble selling the 700 because of the bucket seats, that we quit stocking them and only stocked the 450. The bench seat is way more family friendly like you stated.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
-
Thanks for the reply. I was kinda thinking the same. However, those extra CCs are hard to get out of my head.
-
The 450i has a lot of power, more then I need. It's a great machine. IMO you should definitely try a 450i before you make a purchase. It is an absolute beast in the mud! Good luck with your decision.
-
As a 450i owner I am also favorable to the 450i, one of the reasons I bought it was the bench seat. As an older gent I found the buckets to hard to get in and out of for yard work and chores where a lot of getting in and out is needed. It will be a tight squeeze for 3 of you, I have done it but only for short rides. One of the selling points I found was the number of complaints per 100 units sold by Kymco, it was lower than any other mfgr!! For what I use my machine for, I think it is great and have NO regrets. I am no speed demon so it has plenty of HP for my needs and it has never refused any hill I have tried to climb..
-
Cool thanks guys. I drove a 450 at the dealership awhile back and it seemed like a solid sxs. I was only able to drive it from one side of the parking lot to the other. Also drove a 700 that day. I think the steering felt better in the 450 in terms of bump steer. Ride was similar but hard to tell on the pavement and obviously the 700 had more power.
Anything you guys don't like about your 450s?
-
one BIG advantage to the 450 is that it is a few inches narrower and can fit in a long bed pickup
my odometer just rolled past 1000 today, a good share of those miles pulling my 1000lb toe-hoe
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18766075_10208400259078073_1989412399134243951_n.jpg?oh=0ddc13271b796ebc62e4416ee8dd8c71&oe=59A3198E)
-
Cool thanks guys. I drove a 450 at the dealership awhile back and it seemed like a solid sxs. I was only able to drive it from one side of the parking lot to the other. Also drove a 700 that day. I think the steering felt better in the 450 in terms of bump steer. Ride was similar but hard to tell on the pavement and obviously the 700 had more power.
Anything you guys don't like about your 450s?
The notchy shifter but I am getting used to it, would like to see the turning rad be a bit sharper but other wise have had no issues, 520 miles in 16 months of ownership.
-
Ok. I'm getting closer to a decision. I'm going to go back and drive each again tonight and see. Thanks for all the replies.
-
Cool thanks guys. I drove a 450 at the dealership awhile back and it seemed like a solid sxs. I was only able to drive it from one side of the parking lot to the other. Also drove a 700 that day. I think the steering felt better in the 450 in terms of bump steer. Ride was similar but hard to tell on the pavement and obviously the 700 had more power.
Anything you guys don't like about your 450s?
I would add to my last post speaking of towing my 1000lb toe-hoe with my 450i, on level road and maybe up to 3% slope uphill, I can easily maintain 45mph while towing, as the grade gets to 5%, it slows to 40mph, and at 10% grade, down to 35mph, I don't even think of low gear unless I have 1000 feet or more of 20% grade
that's all towing a half ton
down hill can get a little hairy on a 15%+ gravel road or sharp cornering as the 1000lb trailer weight does tend to push, but the brakes have no problem slowing it down or stopping
-
Today I used my 450i to tow my enclosed trailer around to get it ready to be towed by my motorhome. Had to adjust hitch height, test wiring, etc. My enclosed trailer weighs 1400 lbs and the Kymco moved it thru the yard for quite a distance without a single grunt. Of course I used low gear but the machine never hesitated, even handled the 150lb hitch weight with very little squat, hardly noticeable at all.
-
Good deal. Again thanks everyone.
I have one more questions: what did you guys pay for your 450is? I believe that's going to be the one. I got a quote out the door for $7889.00.
-
$7889 sounds high to me, can't really go by what I paid, as I have a somewhat unique situation, I have bartered my services, and the 450i that I bought had damage (scratches& cracks in plastic) that Kymco reimbursed my dealer for, taking even more off the price than my normal discount
a lot depends on the demand, and in my area, Kymco is not accepted competitively when the competing Honda model was only $500 more, (MSRP on the Pioneer 500 was $8499 when I bought my 450i 2 years ago) stickers I see on the Kymco are priced at $7499 before my personal discounts come into play
-
Sounds about right, that is what I paid for mine plus extras including roof, plow, winch, mount etc. Also depends on which state you live in for any sales tax etc. That 7889 sounds about right out the door....with taxes, freight prep etc. Also consider some of the extras Kymco has that you pay extra for on a Polaris...digital dash, 2" receiver. steel cargo box, not, plastic like some brands, Kymco has a heavier hitch weight rating than many other brands in its size, locking glove box and a list of other small goodies that are extra on other machines. When I bought mine I did a thorough comparison with a Polaris Ranger mid size, including all the extras and the Ranger was almost 2g higher in price and only had a 6 mo warranty.
-
Yes that is what we sell our 450s for here in Missouri.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
-
I had a 450, honestly it's a very solid machine. Will keep up with the 700, same motor and drivetrain that is in the arctic cat 500 SxS if that tells you something. My only complains where rattles that I couldn't get rid of, and that the factory delivered t with the front differential empty. Amazing it didn't grenade on me. Shifter notchiness is no different than the other brands with mechanical shifters.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Empty front diff is definitely a dealer problem as these are to be checked before taking delivery!!
-
Ok. Thanks again everyone. I went ahead a got a blue base 450i. It was a '16 so it had a little rebate and kymco offers a discount rebate. I also traded in a Polaris sportsman. Have to go back to the dealership this week to pick it up. For those that might be asking the same questions: I went with the 450 because of a couple things. It's quieter and runs a lot smother than the 700i. The steering is a lot more user friendly with less bump steer ( actually didn't feel any in the with the 450) the steering is also a lot lighter. The bench seat was also a plus for me and the higher window nets for my kid makes me feel a little safer. It just seems like a more refined sxs and there seems to be more aftermarket support due to the artic cat version. The gearing in this machine also feels better than the gearingthat was in my uxv500. Anyway that's why I picked it. I'm sure there are others that have different opinions just wanted to share my thought and experience.
-
Jasonrbritt what did you ever get??? I love my 450. I do have a few minor gripes. The hood the way it snaps in is cheap. I don't even use my storage under the hood because I know it (the hood) will eventually break. The tabs on the hood that snap into the fixed portion of the hood are cheap. Supposedly this has been address on the 2017. I haven't seen a 2017 in person yet though. Also same goes for the storage compartment in the tailgate. Just a cheap plastic latching mechanism. Some complain about the shifter but hasn't been a real issue for me. The 2017 has a resigned shift control. Next an last thing is the steering/turning. It doesn't turn very sharp. It's not hard to steer or turn though. Just plan on using reverse unless your at speed power sliding it!!! I think a turf model with the option to unlock the rear diff would prob greatly help the turning an steering out. I think that should become standard on all the models.
So taking all that into consideration I'm considering trading my 2015 for a green 2017 UXV 450 turf model!!
-
Ended up a 16 450i. Really like it so far. Added a winch and rock sliders. I also threw a set of 27 tires glad I went back to Kymco.
-
Glad you are enjoying your 450! I love mine even with the minor gripes I have. Lol check out off road body armor accessories for some good aftermarket options. I have all the accessories they offer minus the slim roof and a better windshield coming soon hopefully.
-
Jasonrbritt one thing I was gonna point out too was that I think the 2012 UXV 500 model you had I believe those were still carb models then an not fuel injected like the new ones. So that is probably some of the difference you feel with your new 450. I've never compared them but from what I read on here the 450 is every bit as strong or stronger down low as the 500/700 where the 700 takes it in the top end. If the 700 had a bench seat I'd of probably bought one of them. I really think Kymco needs to add a bench seat model to the 500/700 line. Nip away every bit they can from Polaris ranger and other utilities on the market.
-
I love my 700, seems to have good power and is pretty quick and fast high end. Not having the bench seat doesn't bother me at all but I can see where having one would be nice. Either way I am impressed with the Kymco brand as I took a leap of faith buying a used 2014 700i. Put some time and a little money making sure everything is in great condition and working order (other than my speedometer which I still haven't figured out yet) and loving every minute of having it. I sold my cruiser for it (didn't really need to but helped) and so far worth it.
-
It was a carb model. In fact, my dad bought one at the same time. He has been on a lot of trail rides with us and is pretty hard on it. His is the reason I came back to the brand because of a lack of issues I think all the uxv's are built well it just comes down to preference.
-
That 450 is a sweet little motor. Gobs of power for the machine size.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk