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Technical | How To / Re: xciting 250 coolant change
« on: September 24, 2012, 03:05:22 AM »
I've done it on my Xciting 500 which should be about the same.  Take off front fairing. Take off side skirts, take off bottom plastic underneath engine area.  Take off bottom radiator hose and let drain into pan.  I even took off a small hose which runs under the engine and let that drain.  Crank engine over a few seconds to pump out a little more of the old coolant.  Cover or pour out the old stuff so any pets don't drink it - get sick or die.

Re-install hoses and tighten clamps.  Fill with new NON-silicate antifreeze such as Prestone 50/50. Be very careful to read ingredients on what you buy.  I think if it says contains silicate inhibitors it's not for our scoots.   You're not done yet so don't put the fairing back on. You must now get all air pockets out of the system.  People approach this in different ways but here's what I did.  Run engine with radiator cap loose and look under cap every minute or so and you start to see air bubbling out.  That's good, let it do so untill fluid gets hot and expands so much that it starts to overflow.  Stop engine and let cool preferrably 45 minutes or more. When it's cool, there will be room to add more fluid.  Repeat the above.  Several times if necessary or untill you're pretty sure there's no more air in system. 

I left fairing off and rode around yard at this point for a good long while, like 30 minutes - let cool again and check when cool to see if fluid is needed to bring it up to the cap.  All necessary since if you leave any air in there your temp will fluctuate next time you ride and have to take it all off again.

By the way, when draining, also take the hose off the overflow tank under the left floorboard and drain it.  You can refill it when you refill the radiator. 

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Xciting 500 / Re: Anyone had this problem?
« on: September 13, 2012, 01:58:20 AM »
Oh, and to your point in your original post.  I would NOT go on a 2000 mile ride untill I was sure this was fixed.  That means having ridden a few hundred miles and have it checked again first.   ;)

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Xciting 500 / Re: Anyone had this problem?
« on: September 13, 2012, 01:40:32 AM »
Ok, though I still have a few doubts.  Seems, then, that the replacement clutch pack was overpacked as well, wouldn't you say?  Or there must be some other related defect.  Anyway, glad Kymco and your dealer are on the case.  Seems like they're genuinely commited to getting it fixed right.  This may eventually lead to a recall/repair notice.

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Xciting 500 / Re: Anyone had this problem?
« on: September 12, 2012, 01:13:57 AM »
No, I haven't had this happen.  Sounds like either you've had TWO defective clutch packs in a row, which would point toward a problem at the factory.  OR  The "grease" is really tranny oil coming off the shaft.  Are they sure it's grease?  I would imagine tranny oil, once it gets mixed real good with pad dust could look like grease.  At any rate, it wouldn't be terribly unusual for a number of parts of the same batch to be manufactured incorrectly.  If that's the case, Kymco may not know yet which parts or how many were incorrectly made so it would be hard for them to know when they're sending a good one or a bad one.

Define clutch pack for us please.  Does that include the driven pulley or part of it?

I know there's a good bit of grease inside my driven pulley's torque section. I used to worry what would happen if it leaked but it never has.  There are two thin rubber o-rings that hold it in.  Whenever I put that assembly back together it can be felt just how tight a fit that is!  Once or twice the top o-ring got out of it's groove when I started pushing it together but I was careful enough and worried about it enough to notice and got it right before proceeding.

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Stadium Yamaha in Texas.  Very good to work with.  There is a nice, young lady parts mgr who really knows her stuff and what she doesn't know she works to find out for you.  Her name escapes me at this moment, sorry.  I usually just order online but when I need special help with part numbers I can't find for myself I call and speak to her.  She has been very helpful to me several times.  '07 Xciting 500.

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Xciting 500 / Re: Airfilter
« on: September 06, 2012, 02:19:31 AM »
Standard Kymco replacement filter so far.  Always makes performance better when replaced too!  I live on a dirt road which is alternately muddy or incredibly dusty which dirtys up the filter rather quickly. 

I order them from Stadium Yamaha online so far.

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Technical | How To / Re: Stuck Variator Nut - Help Please
« on: September 05, 2012, 04:43:07 PM »
Well, sheesh, that's on there bad.  Maybe someone used locktight on it?  I guess, then, I agree with Streido, you might just have to cut it off.  Yeah a dremel with one of those thin carbon cut-off wheels cutting as much as possible -- then a cold chisel to crack it the rest of the way. 

That can get a little messy since you might have to dress up the crank threads afterward in which case gotta have a die and so on to do so.  Not to mention having to order new nut and washer. 

By the way, I found a hairline crack in my washer once.  Maybe I had been tightening to much previously.  Anyway I used it till a new one came in. 

Situations like this make me wonder how an experienced shop mechanic would proceed? ?

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Technical | How To / Re: Stuck Variator Nut - Help Please
« on: September 05, 2012, 01:51:10 AM »
Maybe this'll help -- it's how I do mine.  http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=3814.0

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Xciting 500 / Re: New tires with the GIVI windscreen--WOOT!
« on: August 26, 2012, 02:12:54 AM »
I now need new tires front and rear.  Drifter, why do you say that about the Shinko?  I'm wondering because I'm thinking of ordering Shinkos for front and rear.  Have had two on the rear now.  The mileage is not great, but I've been happy with the performance and stickiness. 

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Xciting 500 / Re: Got new Euro headlight module. :-)
« on: August 24, 2012, 02:03:59 AM »
They are led 194.  Type that into ebay and you'll get thousands of items to choose from.  Or use your favorite supplier.  One thing I read on one supplier's ad said leds should not be put in a headlight module or anywhere where they'll be subjected to high heat because it said they will fail.  I'd already installed mine and haven't had failure yet in about a year of use. 

When I was looking for those leds, I tried to look for ones with as many individual leds as possible -- or at least those with the brighter leds.  I think I wound up with some with 18 leds on each bulb.  Super yellow is what I finally installed after asking some local deputies about the blue ones I first installed and being told they weren't legal.

The holes in the back of the module will accomodate leds that are slightly larger in diameter than the incandescant bulbs which come in it stock.

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Xciting 500 / Dragon Custom's original showbike for sale: $10,495
« on: August 20, 2012, 01:51:15 AM »
I don't know if you all have seen and discussed this already.  I just saw it.  Buyer beware but -- oh what an eye-catcher! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140829801879&viewitem=#v4-35

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Just because your pads aren't worn down doesn't always mean you don't need new ones.  Mine looked just fine with plenty of thickness left but I had a brake pulsing problem.  I had tried sanding the pads clean several times which would help for a few miles then the problem would return. Changing to new ceramic pads solved the problem.  Pads can get saturated with brake fluid and become less effective.
 The ceramic pads were $50 US dollars on Ebay and I installed them myself.  Xciting 500, 2007 with basically the same pads and rotors as your Xciting 250.

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Xciting 250 / Re: scooter won't start
« on: August 19, 2012, 04:32:40 PM »
The fact that the needle jumped really high when you first connected the charger means the battery was really low.  It was taking a lot of amperage at first.  The needle will go lower as the battery gets more charge in it.

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Xciting 500 / Re: '07 X500 shutter/jerk on throttle up
« on: August 12, 2012, 06:22:44 PM »
So it calms down after 2 - 3 seconds and goes away altogehther after 15 minutes.  Well, you have a choice to look into either the carb or the CVT.  The CVT is easier to at least look at so I myself would look there first. 

If I had to guess, I would say it sounds like one or more clutch pads are not extending at the same rate as the rest.  Or maybe even a foreign object in the clutch?  I have had pieces of springs get into the clutch and other areas. Think there is supposed to be a small amount of lubrication on the pivot points.  Can be checked by removing the CVT cover and clutch bell only.  Then pry on the pads gently with screwdriver and feel how they move.  Oh you'll need a clutch holder to get the bell off probably. 

While the CVT cover is off you can do a layman's inspection of most of the other components suggested. 

Good luck!

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Xciting 500 / Please help with overheating CVT
« on: July 02, 2012, 04:55:21 AM »
I'm out of ideas right now on this, guys and gals.  I noticed my CVT overheating a week ago so started investigating.  I'd say it gets to around 175 degrees F.  Hot enough to burn you if you keep your finger on it more than a fraction of a second.  Normally, it would be barely warm or perhaps even at ambient temp.

For an experiment, I rode it for 50 feet -- took off cover and the clutch bell was the source of great heat.  Took off the bell and saw clutch pads are worn significantly but not down to the metal.  So I decided to take off the stiff clutch springs I had installed and go back to stock springs thinking the clutch was slipping due to wear of pads.  This had no effect.  I didn't notice any slipping at any time anyway.

Everything else looks ok such as variator and belt.

I don't want to ride it with it doing this.  What does anyone think?


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