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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: DoGOV on August 12, 2011, 08:43:14 PM
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http://imgur.com/a/NLXnE (http://imgur.com/a/NLXnE)
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Holy crap man, how fast were you going?
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and your smiling about it. ouch must not hurt to bad. or you are on some dame good meds. lol
so tell us what happen.
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You gotta tell us the story so we know what to avoid. Wish you a speedy recovery.
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Dayyymmn! Road rash is no fun lol. Hope your ok and your scooter isn't to thrashed. How fast were you goin?
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Thanks for all the good wishes. Well, I was coming back from advanced autoparts because I needed a feeler gauge for valve clearance check. I had just gotten back into my girlfriends neighborhood which has a lot of hills and turns. I was going down a hill while turning left and just leaned into it a little too hard. I caught the kickstand and it skid out form under me. i was going about 30+i guess. If I had any advice it would be to wear some real shoes instead of flip flops. Also jeans would have helped. It's just that it was like 100+ degrees outside yesterday and I love flip flops and shorts haha.I was wearing a full face helmet. It didn't hurt at all when it happened. I was just like "sh**, that actually just happened" it felt like I had just fallen of a waterski or wakeboard. But buy the time my GF picked me up and took me to the ER things started to get really bright but that only lasted like 10 seconds. Then the pain started to set in. It was never really that painful except when they were scrubbing my wounds with the soap. Now I'm all bandaged up and taking some motrin to help me sleep. :)
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I'm glad there were no broken bones. I have a friend that wears flip flops even when we go bike riding. I cringe to think about it...
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Thanks for all the good wishes. Well, I was coming back from advanced autoparts because I needed a feeler gauge for valve clearance check. I had just gotten back into my girlfriends neighborhood which has a lot of hills and turns. I was going down a hill while turning left and just leaned into it a little too hard. I caught the kickstand and it skid out form under me. i was going about 30+i guess. If I had any advice it would be to wear some real shoes instead of flip flops. Also jeans would have helped. It's just that it was like 100+ degrees outside yesterday and I love flip flops and shorts haha.I was wearing a full face helmet. It didn't hurt at all when it happened. I was just like "sh**, that actually just happened" it felt like I had just fallen of a waterski or wakeboard. But buy the time my GF picked me up and took me to the ER things started to get really bright but that only lasted like 10 seconds. Then the pain started to set in. It was never really that painful except when they were scrubbing my wounds with the soap. Now I'm all bandaged up and taking some motrin to help me sleep. :)
To treat the road rash:
1. Wash the wounds once per day using hydrous peroxide. It is very cheap and readily available in drugstores. It will wash away all organic waste (puss) and remains of the asphalt. Just pour some on the wound - it does not burn unlike medicinal alcohol.
2. Buy some spray-disinfectant that can be sprayed directly to wounds. They are also cheap and usually include some antibiotic.
3. Finally, in the first week, if you dress the wounds, buy a mesh-gauze soaked in vazeline used for treatment of burns. It looks like a small mesh or grid, you can cut it to dimension and place on the wound. Then you can use regular wrapping over it. It prevents the gauze from sticking to the wound and ripping the forming crust.
4. Ramp up intake of Omega 3/fish oil, protein intake (cottage cheese, lean meat, whole eggs) and you can take 5 g of creatine per day (it greatly helps healing). You can get 1 lb of creatine for 20 US$ in food supplement/bodybuilding stores.
Good luck with healing!
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To treat the road rash:
1. Wash the wounds once per day using hydrous peroxide. It is very cheap and readily available in drugstores. It will wash away all organic waste (puss) and remains of the asphalt. Just pour some on the wound - it does not burn unlike medicinal alcohol.
2. Buy some spray-disinfectant that can be sprayed directly to wounds. They are also cheap and usually include some antibiotic.
3. Finally, in the first week, if you dress the wounds, buy a mesh-gauze soaked in vazeline used for treatment of burns. It looks like a small mesh or grid, you can cut it to dimension and place on the wound. Then you can use regular wrapping over it. It prevents the gauze from sticking to the wound and ripping the forming crust.
4. Ramp up intake of Omega 3/fish oil, protein intake (cottage cheese, lean meat, whole eggs) and you can take 5 g of creatine per day (it greatly helps healing). You can get 1 lb of creatine for 20 US$ in food supplement/bodybuilding stores.
Good luck with healing!
I've found it effective to treat the wounds and the pain using alcohol applied internally. For the best results have your girlfriend apply it while you are soaking in a pool. If a man approaches you with vaseline then grab your girlfriend and carefully back away from the pool.
Shoes are the thing I won't even ride to the mailbox without. A helmet for any further. For short jaunts I put on my fingerless gloves - to me they are more important than long pants because if I fall then my hands always hit the ground (Handy when riding scooters, riding bikes, wearing skates, walking while shewing gum...).
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Ouch. Looks sore. I came off a couple of months ago and im still sore. Hope the scoots not too badly hurt ;D
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Last time I went over the handlebars it took me a couple of months to get back in the saddle , of coarse I was 57 years old at that time . I healed .
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Looks like I have to fix the alignment of the front tire and the handlebars. Anybody know how to do this? :-\
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Looks like I have to fix the alignment of the front tire and the handlebars. Anybody know how to do this? :-\
Put it onto the centerstand and loosen the triple clamps and the front axle. Be careful not to let the bike fall forward. Wiggle the front end until everything looks straight and then tighten them back up. You can use a straight 2x4 to ensure the wheels are aligned to each other - or tie a string from the front of the front tire, around the back of the rea tire, and back to the front of the front tire (encircling the tires). Then sight along the string to make sure everything looks even. Then just align the bars by sight...
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I like quote from the guy somewhere on this forum that said "It's not about the ride, it's about the slide". I'm 48 but paranoid, so when I take my 50 out, even in the heat we've been having, I put on jeans and a light long sleeve shirt and helmet. My kids laugh at me and I laugh at them for laughing at me, cause I could really give a crap what they or anyone else thinks :). When I ride my super 8 150 into work, then they really get worked up when I put my riding jacket on on top of everything else :)
Thanks for the picture - now I can show my 16 year old who just got his license that there's no such thing as too careful, even on an Agility 50. Hope you heal up real quick!
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To treat the road rash:
1. Wash the wounds once per day using hydrous peroxide. It is very cheap and readily available in drugstores. It will wash away all organic waste (puss) and remains of the asphalt. Just pour some on the wound - it does not burn unlike medicinal alcohol.
2. Buy some spray-disinfectant that can be sprayed directly to wounds. They are also cheap and usually include some antibiotic.
3. Finally, in the first week, if you dress the wounds, buy a mesh-gauze soaked in vazeline used for treatment of burns. It looks like a small mesh or grid, you can cut it to dimension and place on the wound. Then you can use regular wrapping over it. It prevents the gauze from sticking to the wound and ripping the forming crust.
4. Ramp up intake of Omega 3/fish oil, protein intake (cottage cheese, lean meat, whole eggs) and you can take 5 g of creatine per day (it greatly helps healing). You can get 1 lb of creatine for 20 US$ in food supplement/bodybuilding stores.
Good luck with healing!
I don't always agree with Axy but in this case I agree completely. Hopefully, you went to a doc and so do not need this advice.
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Wow Axy, you should be a paramedic man! ;D
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Where Is this triple clamp you have to loosen?
http://imgur.com/BFLLz (http://imgur.com/BFLLz)
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I loosened four bolts where the suspension meets but it still doesn't budge. everything lines up until you get to the wheel.
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wow fast recovery how you feeling must be better to be working on scoot.
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Here are some more pics that will hopefully help! ???
http://imgur.com/a/9aZR9 (http://imgur.com/a/9aZR9)
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is the triple tree bent in some way maybe thats why things wont line up.
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is the triple tree bent in some way maybe thats why things wont line up.
I'm not sure but that seems like a hard part to bend being so bulky, but the triple clamp doesn't line up with the tire. looks at these pics I took last night. http://imgur.com/a/4MV9O (http://imgur.com/a/4MV9O)
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Looking at the pictures I guess it's just the axle that's bent.
(pictures look familiar, been there a few times when I was young haha... Never bent a fork in light crashes, only axles...)
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looks like the shocks are twisted out of shape maybe replace the the front shocks.
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When you loosened and removed the bolts from the triple clamps and loosened the axle - were you able to wiggle the front end to move the wheel around? If you could not twist the fork tubes by hand in the clamp - then you may have to also pry it apart with a flat blade screwdriver so that the fork tubes can move easily enough. You might try loosening them again with the scooter near to a car wheel or some other object. Once they are loosened - then put your front tire against the car tire and push against the handlebars to try to put the front wheel back inline with the triple clamp (it's common for fork tubes to twist or tweak). You may have bent one or both of the fork tubes (I doubt you bent the axle - but anything is possible). If you loosen the bolts and turn the fork tube in the clamp is should move evenly. If it gets harder and then easier - then the tube is bent. You can either turn it to the point where it is the straightest and put up with the handling being a bit off, remove the fork tubes from the fork boot and have them straightened - or replace them.
I still think you want to make sure the front end isn't just "tweaked" by loosening everything and trying to push it all into alignment.
Good luck.
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Took apart the front end, after days of my scooter being stuck at my girlfriends lake house, and I figured out my problem finally. Looks as though I did bend the tripple tree the most expensive part of the steering. http://kymcopartsonline.com/catalog/search_diagram_detail.php?s_fk_manufacturers_id=21&s_fk_model_year_id=1&s_fk_scooter_model_id=2&s_parts_diagram_id=50 (http://kymcopartsonline.com/catalog/search_diagram_detail.php?s_fk_manufacturers_id=21&s_fk_model_year_id=1&s_fk_scooter_model_id=2&s_parts_diagram_id=50) Here's a pic for proof of damage. Thanks to everyone that helped out!
http://imgur.com/agHmF (http://imgur.com/agHmF)
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Oh yeah - that picture is worth a thousand words... At least now you can replace it and get back on the road. Do your fork tubes look straight? Can you hold them up to a piece of glass, or a straight metal edge? You don't want to get the triple clamp in and then find out a fork tube is bent... I'd at least check the left one... >:(
It doesn't look like they sell the fork tubes as a separate item...
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owwwww looks painful my mate fell of his moped the other week and hurt himself but not as bad as some people. i always wear a motorcycle jacket, jeans, helmet, and trainers when i ride just so if i do fall off i wont destroy myself :L hope you get better soon. :)
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To treat the road rash:
1. Wash the wounds once per day using hydrous peroxide. It is very cheap and readily available in drugstores. It will wash away all organic waste (puss) and remains of the asphalt. Just pour some on the wound - it does not burn unlike medicinal alcohol.
2. Buy some spray-disinfectant that can be sprayed directly to wounds. They are also cheap and usually include some antibiotic.
3. Finally, in the first week, if you dress the wounds, buy a mesh-gauze soaked in vazeline used for treatment of burns. It looks like a small mesh or grid, you can cut it to dimension and place on the wound. Then you can use regular wrapping over it. It prevents the gauze from sticking to the wound and ripping the forming crust.
4. Ramp up intake of Omega 3/fish oil, protein intake (cottage cheese, lean meat, whole eggs) and you can take 5 g of creatine per day (it greatly helps healing). You can get 1 lb of creatine for 20 US$ in food supplement/bodybuilding stores.
Good luck with healing!
Know it's like 6 years late, but for anyone reading this still, do NOT use hydrogen peroxide, this cause scarring, and that's coming from a nurse. Just use alcohol, trust me, crashed a dirt bike at 50mph, and got a nice sized centimeter deep hole i my arm.
Sqk
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Great thread.
Perfect example of what happens when the proper gear isn't worn.
AMAC
Yes I'll be the whole in the room.
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I will keep you company, AMAC. Two major mistakes, doncha think?
Karl
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I will keep you company, AMAC. Two major mistakes, doncha think?
Karl
Oh Karl, I don't consider you and AMAC as Major mistakes.
Maybe buck Sergeants, until you mens have your coffee.....
Spec 5 Stig
(I never knew that there was a plural of "men", until that first day of basic training.)
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Right befoe I retired, I had a big toe crushed, at work, with the tip snapped off. Became a right mess. Was out on wrk. comp. for a few weeks while they worked to save it.
Got in some nice scooter riding.
Heavvvvy boots....no issues. Maybe not the smartest thing I've ever done. But was going stir crazy after doing everything I could think of around the house and to the scooter! (you can't keep changing the oil without running the engines!)
.....Sitting in my coffee village wearing armored pants and armored leather jacket, full face helmet, ear plugs, balaclava, heated liners under gauntlets, rain pants, hi viz over-jacket, fairly clean y-fronts and heavy rubber soled leather over the ankle boots. Does take a few mins to get suited up.
Do hit the WC first.....
Stig
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Come to think, I WAS the Navy equivalent of a buck sargent, Stig! Yes, do hit the head before drssing for the road or utilize the external catheter!
Karl
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IF i had a Vincent, i would be unable to resist the opportunity.
(http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/-/media/Images/MCC/Editorial/Articles/Magazine-Articles/2010/11-01/Rollie-Free-and-Bathing-Suit-Bike/Edgar-Vincent-4.jpg)
Intelligent riders follow every bit of advice posted within this thread, even for the shortest hops, where the unexpected Does occur.
redk