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Downtown 300 / Hard starting in warm weather FIX
« on: April 12, 2011, 12:48:42 PM »
I know some people on the forum have noticed it takes quite a few cranks sometimes, to get the DT300i to start, after it has been sitting in the blazing hot sun (90+F here yesterday - It felt like the sun was 12 ft overhead!!!).

I'm fairly certain, the gasoline expansion due to the increase in temperature causes the excess to dump into the cylinder, slightly flooding it. 

I've tried MANY techniques to get it to fire up more easily in this situation, and I think I have nailed it.  The Anti-Flood setting seems to do the trick!  If it doesn't spring to life after 2-3 seconds of starting, this is what I do, and it seems to work very well!  Please tell me if it helps you out!

- Try starting.  If you get 2-3 seconds without joy, then
1.  Twist the throttle ALL THE WAY open, and hold it
2.  Press and hold the starter button (While holding the throttle all the way open) for 3 full seconds.
3.  Release the starter, then the throttle and wait 5 seconds.

On the next go, it should fire right up.


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General Discussion / Idiot Needs Help with Pumping Gas
« on: March 25, 2011, 01:26:16 PM »
I like to fancy myself as quick-witted.  And tall.  And mouth-wateringly sexy.  But reality has been rather unkind towards my self-perception as of late (only the quick-witted part).

I KNOW overfilling the gas tank - As warned about in the manual of many scoots - Will fill the charcoal canister, clog it, and cause hard starting.  

I try HARD to not overfill.  I stick the nozzle ALL the way in the tank.  I try to slow down when I think the tank is near full.  But despite my efforts I have a 50% rate of having the gas overflow the tank and pour all over the scoot.  Immediately followed by passionate cursing.

WTF could I be possibly doing wrong not to get the pump to click off!?!  Do any of you have a surefire trick?  This is not a problem on any other vehicle =(.

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General Discussion / The DoD Squid Purity Test - Just for Fun
« on: February 23, 2011, 02:37:52 AM »
  For those new to the internet, once upon a time we mostly had usenet before the web, and usenet has some great 'lists'.  One of my favs is, of course, rec.motorcycles - Home to the Denizens of Doom (DoD).

  The DoD coined the term 'Squid', referring to someone who rode far far beyond the abilities of themselves, their machine, or any sort of sane reasoning.  To determine how much of a squid you may be, they developed a comprehensive Squid Purity Test.  It is nothing short of hilarious.  You can take it here:

http://www.dod.no/cgi-bin/squidtest

Post your score if you'd like!

I'm sitting at 27.356...  I must do more nude riding..

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Downtown 300 / Easiest Tail Mod EVAR.
« on: February 20, 2011, 02:56:05 PM »
  I was lamenting at the truly gargantuan, black, plastic tailfeathers on the scoot.  On any of my bikes, I think they all look better when you can show a little back tire.

  Normally a tail-tidy is the way to go, but I haven't seen any.  When the situation is dire enough, I'll use the Dremel to liberate the unnecessary bits.  However, the Downtown allowed me to reduce the tail with just 3 screws!!!!

  Take a look at the bit under the license plate holder - The line going horizontally isn't decoration, it is actually segmented!  Behind the mudflap (You'll need a short phillips headed screwdriver to loosen them) are 3 screws holding them on.  Needless to say - 5 minutes later, MUCH BETTER!

  If my description is a little muddy, take a look at the pics (Before, After, and the part I removed) - It is dead simple.

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Downtown 300 / Downtown 300i First Ride
« on: January 27, 2011, 03:16:12 PM »
Just a few thoughts on the lil beastie on the ride home yesterday (I'll add pics this weekend)

  The conditions for the ride had given me pause, as the wind was 20 gusting over 35 - It was blowing the cage all over the road on the way to the dealership.  But while discretion is the better part of valor, eschewing discretion is certainly the bestest part (>.0 ).

  Plenty of room under that seat!  Looks like there is not as much as there is.  Until it swallowed my entire full face (Vega Altrua) - I did have to face it backwards to get it to fit well.  That left me with another helmet-sized cavern to fill in front of it.  Given that my former bike (crotch rocket) had enough room to stow a small wallet at best, this is a welcome change.

  Getting off the center stand was a breeze, I'm 5/7 ~160 (Not the biggest lad, but it took no significant effort.  I was able to almost totally flatfoot at rest on both sides, and duckwalking the scoot backwards was no problem - In fact the body seems to be designed to aid in this (Feels thinner somehow the midpoint).

  Throttle is responsive and strong, but the clutch engagement is just plain smooth.  Nicely balanced.  The engine is definitely a thumper.  It is not the sewing machine that the crotch rocket is, but smoother than my Vespa 150LX.  Standing still, you can vaguely feel the engine, at speed, it is just hums along.

  For a single disk on each wheel, the brakes are MORE than enough.  I can't see any benefit a dual disc would bring.  The odd part is - The front brakes are good.  The rear binders are INCREDIBLE.  I have never had rear brakes work so well.  You can DROP ANCHOR in a major way.  The braking is smooth and predictable - AND they have taken the time to add adjustable handles, AND plastic coated, braided steel brake lines (NOICE!).  I didn't notice this until I got home, but it is a nice touch.

  Remember that wind?  I was fairly on-edge for the first 10 miles, pretty sure I'd be riding at a miserable list to compensate.  The wind was DEAD west, and I was heading south.  To my amazement, it was a total non-issue.  So was riding next to big rigs (which were weaving mightily).  I don't understand it, but it just plowed through the wind without much notice.

  Handling was something I had to get used to - It rides like a big scooter (^.^ ).  At speed, very little bar pressure is required to initiate a turn.  After the lean, there is a slight hesitation as the suspension sets and the turn begins.  It handles like a Burgman 650, on a 200lb diet.  High speed turns revealed no bad habits - No wallowing, no drifting.  Pressure on bars, set suspension , roll on throttle - Smooth and predictable.  It did make driving quite easy.

  Straight line was STABLE.  At highway speeds, I jolted the bars, looking for oscillation.  Nothing.  Immediately settled.  I rode over smooth highway, and crappy, torn-up city streets.  The suspension soaked up imperfections, rain grooves, and uneven lane without issue.  The suspension was set at '3' for me.  

  The seat was comfy for the hour ride - The wife LOVES the passenger accommodations.  The scoot is big, but the bars, mirror placement and instrument cluster position make everything feel within reach.  I'm used to having to look a bit ahead to see my mirrors, on the Downtown, they are RIGHT THERE.  Riding position is comfy, and there are plenty.  I put my feet straight down, behind me, AND , if you slide your bum forward you can actually use the forward rests and roll like it is a lounge chair.

  2-up is not problem.  The engine revs a little higher on take off.  Not much else.  if you adjust the suspension accordingly, I can honestly say 2-up is not just doable.  It is easy and comfy.  The scoot handles it with ease and grace.

  All in all, It is a great scoot and cruises like a dream.  As a bonus, I got upward of 70mpg on the trip, and my insurance has dropped by 75% (with lowered deductables!!!).  


  Of course there are things I didn't like - Here are the cons:

- The User's manual is rubbish.  I remember when these used to take more than 15 minutes to put together.  Why would it not include how to change the oil or belt?  Why doesn't it have actual size numbers for the bulbs?  Why wouldn't it tell me how to adjust the throttle takeup.  Boooooo!

  LUCKILY, the service manual is on scribd - along with the parts list.  The service manual is quite good.  It also tells you how to run the internal diagnostic mode.  I'll be buying that.

- The instrument cluster.  I love it!  The LED backlights are sharp, and the fisheye glass over the needles is perfect to avoid glare.  However, resetting the trip requires a 2second-button hold.  It is a little much.  Would also like a little more granularity than the 4-bar gas gauge and temp gauge.  Just nitpicking.        

- The ignition key functions are unintelligible.  The ring around they key has a multitude of arrows and hieroglyphics, on many separate levels.  A simple dot with a word next to it would be great.  

- The Downtown has a STOCK rear tire hugger.  If you have a bike without one, you can appreciate their value - The hugger prevents the tire from slinging crap yp, under your bike.  HOWEVER, they decided to hide that behind a giant, hideous mudflap/giant chunk of plastic to hold the license plate.  Fabricating a 'tail tidy' will be a priority.  Why does every manufacturer seem to put thses on their bikes?

- No LED turnsignals in the rear?  No LED taillight?  The rest of the bike is sooooo slick and modern - why would we not include this?  I'll be fixing this oversight immediately.  ;D

- No Downtown 300i forum here!  Seriously.  They are going to sell quite a few of these things this year.  May want to get that going.


  All in all, the value you get for the price on this scoot is incredible.  It is a very fun ride and cuises like a dream.  The styling cannot be beat (It looks like it was actually designed this decade) - It really catches the eye.  Faster than my Vespa, less of a rolling pig than my Burgman, WAY more practical than my crotch rocket.  Can't go wrong with this scoot IMHO.


P.S. I'll edit the post to add pics later ;D

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Downtown 300 / Where to get parts & Headlight size for Downtown 300i
« on: January 27, 2011, 02:04:12 PM »
Hello All!

  2 Questions: 

- Where can you order parts, like an oil filter, online for the Downtown 300i in the US?  The model doesn't even show up on Kymco's parts site (>.< )

- What size are the headlights on the Downtown 300i?  They are listed as 35W/35W...  Which is not a size at all.  I'l like to replace them with the cooler spectrum bulbs I normally use.


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General Discussion / Warranty Experiences
« on: January 13, 2011, 02:51:44 PM »
  My local dealer said that Kymco is offering a 2 year warranty (Yamaha only offers one, but you can buy more =P).  Has anyone had to bring their scoot in for warranty work?

  How did it go for you?  Any hassles/trouble?  Did everything get fixed?


Thanks in advance!

W

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Downtown 300 / Need Opinions from Downtown 300i Riders
« on: January 12, 2011, 02:31:38 AM »
Hello all!

  I'm looking at picking up a mid size scoot.  I'm down to the Downtown 300i, Yamaha Majesty, or XCiting 500

  I'm leaning heavily toward the Downtown 300i - I love the styling, and the insurance and fuel savings will be very welcome!  I do have some questions though - Any help, views, and opinions are appreciated!

  - How is the Downtown 300i to ride 2 up?  Can You ride highway (70mph) 2 up (I'm 160, the wife is... much less ;D)?  Does it handle well 2 up?

  - How does the Downtown handle at speed - I have a 30+ minute commute on a road with a 70mph speed limit?  At 70-80mph is it stable?  Are there any oscillation problems or wallowing?  Any handling problems at all?

  - How is the seating position?  I'm about 5'7", and it is a little upright, but not uncomfy.  However the forward foot position seemed...  odd.  - I'm going to sling a leg over the bike at the dealer this weekend, but any opinions are great!

  - Are the brakes linked or seperate?

Thanks in advance!

W

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