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Title: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: CrzRani on October 14, 2014, 08:00:43 PM
Hi all,
I'm new to this forum and am considering converting from my Honda scooter to a Kymco Like 200i LX.  I live in a semi hilly town, so the main reason I want to upgrade from my 50 to the 163cc is for my uphill power.  My Honda struggles up hill past 20 mph or I need to maintain my momentum in turns to make it happen. 

Also, the other reason specifically for the 163cc, is cause I found a dealer that has one new from 2013 and it's a screaming deal.  I just don't want the deal and find out I was better off just sticking to my Honda.   :)  Appreciate any feedback.

TIA
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: 2wheelfun on October 14, 2014, 08:16:44 PM
Do yourself a favor, test drive a movie150 before you buy the like200. 13.5hp vs 10hp. You will notice the difference in acceleration and torque................look up my posts on like 200 and stigs too. The movie is built in Taiwan the 200 in PRC. Then decide.......good luck bro.
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: CrzRani on October 14, 2014, 09:07:23 PM
I appreciate the feedback.  Didn't know it was PRC made, but I do like the retro look better with the upper trunk, so the Movie wouldn't fit what I'm looking for.  I will go test ride it though and see if it's as peppy as my Honda, since I did put a kit on mine and a Yoshi exhaust.  added 5MPH.
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: big blue on October 14, 2014, 09:37:52 PM
Actually the 200i is 11.3 BHP. My Like will pull most good hills at 45 mph from a dead stop. Mine has been totally trouble free in 5000 miles. If the deal is really good I say go for it! ;)
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: CrzRani on October 14, 2014, 10:36:42 PM
Actually the 200i is 11.3 BHP. My Like will pull most good hills at 45 mph from a dead stop. Mine has been totally trouble free in 5000 miles. If the deal is really good I say go for it! ;)
Thanks for that info.  45 will work!
I figured that it should have enough umph.  11.3 vs 4.3hp that I have now is significant.  I'm still haggling with the dealer.  I know that it's 2013 they have in stock, but new.  They can't want to keep that baby in inventory, if they can help it.
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: LidoCA on October 14, 2014, 11:25:12 PM
 Like Big Blue stated, it will go up a hill at 45 from a dead stop. If you have momentum, it will climb a little faster. I live in a hilly area and frequently ride go over some large hills. I have no problems, with the exception of the cagers that want to go 60 mph on a 45 mph hill.
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 15, 2014, 12:00:54 AM
Don't know what part of the country you are in ....or how soon you need the scoot...
Last winter I saw these LIKE200i's list real close to $2K new...'left over'  stock.
If the dealer is talking in that neighborhood "out the door",  or "on the road"  I would think that would be a very good deal.
Now, having said that - most of the LIKE200i owners here are having a very good experince with their's - and have not needed much support from their dealers. BUT, if you ever do need your dealer for a mechanical issue - how do you think the folks you are dealing with will stack up in that area??

The LIKE200i is a pretty darn good scooter (read justgottascoot.com for a good review of the scooter) - but my experience has taught me to look r e a l hard at the quality of the dealer I'm buying from. I bought another scooter - this time it was a Honda.....for my local dealer support. I suspect every area of the country is a different experience.

FYI- have seen low mile Honda PCX's going for $2200 from private sellers (ie. dealer 'out the door' add ons) - and as a Honda owner you know you can't beat that scoot with a stick! The PCX will outrun the Kymco. BUT, that Kymco is a whole lot easier to work on if you like to do your own servicing!! Say "valve adjustment" to a PCX owner and they go into a cold sweat ....and well, it not pretty to watch..

You're looking at the LX version ??
Hmmmm....
Remember, they like the cold.(http://i61.tinypic.com/2dm61qa.jpg)

Stig(http://i57.tinypic.com/9izm20.jpg)
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: CrzRani on October 15, 2014, 10:33:29 PM
Thanks Stig.  I live in Southern California and so weather is not the issue.  You have the exact scheme I'm looking at!  I never really thought I would like the retro look, considering I have sport bikes, but I've learned to diversify my look on my scooters.  It seems that everyone loves their Like, and the PCX is not my style, even though it may run circles around the Like.  I definitely like the tail trunk, and the paint scheme is bomb!
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 15, 2014, 11:57:16 PM
Thanks Stig.  I live in Southern California and so weather is not the issue.  You have the exact scheme I'm looking at!  I never really thought I would like the retro look, considering I have sport bikes, but I've learned to diversify my look on my scooters.  It seems that everyone loves their Like, and the PCX is not my style, even though it may run circles around the Like.  I definitely like the tail trunk, and the paint scheme is bomb!
Well, I must say that you have amazingly good taste! :D (I'm not entirely alone in this - there are 3 or 4 {nearly} equally erudite owners of this color LIKE on this forum- though few as good looking as you & I)
Yep - it was the classy retro style of this scooter that attracted me. Did you know that it was designed by a famous Italian design house ? Not kidding. The details of portions of the scoot are impressive.
 I liked the rear trunk - it is so darned handy for clothes and groceries and stuff.... I saw & liked the large rear tail light for safety....but since I ride in city traffic at night, every day, I decided I wanted more 'presence' to the cars behind me.
Looking at a lot of options for rear lights - and lighted rear top cases - for the price I decided to add the Bestem 929 lighted case. It seemed too big to me at first - but it grew on me. I really like that it comes with the lights installed, that the lights can be seen from the side as well as the rear, that ALL the lights get brighter when I touch the brakes, and that it does not cost $400 to $700 !
For about $125 I installed it on my LIKE and wired it to my rear lights. It is a 'running' light and a brake light....just like the scoot's tail light. ( a couple of us on this forum posted how-to's on this top case install)


Running lights with key on...(http://i57.tinypic.com/2d7xc7o.jpg)

From the side....(http://i57.tinypic.com/2zqtuh0.jpg)

Brakes applied...(http://i57.tinypic.com/4gnqd5.jpg)

(http://i59.tinypic.com/14aafmc.jpg)
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: FinancialFider on October 17, 2014, 04:57:52 AM
Thanks for that info.  45 will work!
I figured that it should have enough umph.  11.3 vs 4.3hp that I have now is significant.  I'm still haggling with the dealer.  I know that it's 2013 they have in stock, but new.  They can't want to keep that baby in inventory, if they can help it.

Which dealer? I live in SoCal and got my 2013 Like200i for $2,850 Out the Door from Pacific Motorsports back in Dec.2013. Also I manged to get 45 MPH on a steep hill in San Pedro. Power on a freeway? Top Speed 55MPH I can prove it

http://youtu.be/SxvD4LlPOV8?list=LLjc4eWl-qsX5zZnn9kgpoaA (http://youtu.be/SxvD4LlPOV8?list=LLjc4eWl-qsX5zZnn9kgpoaA)
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: TroutBum on October 17, 2014, 03:24:55 PM
From a dead stop or hitting an uphill climb at 50 or above my Like will eventually settle at 45 mph. I weigh 210 so a lighter rider might get more speed doing a climb. The like pulls decent for roughly 12 hp.
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 17, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
Which dealer? I live in SoCal and got my 2013 Like200i for $2,850 Out the Door from Pacific Motorsports back in Dec.2013. Also I manged to get 45 MPH on a steep hill in San Pedro. Power on a freeway? Top Speed 55MPH I can prove it

http://youtu.be/SxvD4LlPOV8?list=LLjc4eWl-qsX5zZnn9kgpoaA (http://youtu.be/SxvD4LlPOV8?list=LLjc4eWl-qsX5zZnn9kgpoaA)
Glad you're still around to tell this story!
My goodness....they were flying by you on all sides!
The LIKE is not a freeway scooter!
Stig
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: LidoCA on October 18, 2014, 12:19:20 AM
Which dealer? I live in SoCal and got my 2013 Like200i for $2,850 Out the Door from Pacific Motorsports back in Dec.2013. Also I manged to get 45 MPH on a steep hill in San Pedro. Power on a freeway? Top Speed 55MPH I can prove it

http://youtu.be/SxvD4LlPOV8?list=LLjc4eWl-qsX5zZnn9kgpoaA (http://youtu.be/SxvD4LlPOV8?list=LLjc4eWl-qsX5zZnn9kgpoaA)
I bought mine at Pacific as well. She is in OC, so I would.guess Laguna or Costa Mesa.
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: LidoCA on October 18, 2014, 12:25:00 AM
Don't know what part of the country you are in ....or how soon you need the scoot...
Last winter I saw these LIKE200i's list real close to $2K new...'left over'  stock.
If the dealer is talking in that neighborhood "out the door",  or "on the road"  I would think that would be a very good deal.
Now, having said that - most of the LIKE200i owners here are having a very good experince with their's - and have not needed much support from their dealers. BUT, if you ever do need your dealer for a mechanical issue - how do you think the folks you are dealing with will stack up in that area??

The LIKE200i is a pretty darn good scooter (read justgottascoot.com for a good review of the scooter) - but my experience has taught me to look r e a l hard at the quality of the dealer I'm buying from. I bought another scooter - this time it was a Honda.....for my local dealer support. I suspect every area of the country is a different experience.

FYI- have seen low mile Honda PCX's going for $2200 from private sellers (ie. dealer 'out the door' add ons) - and as a Honda owner you know you can't beat that scoot with a stick! The PCX will outrun the Kymco. BUT, that Kymco is a whole lot easier to work on if you like to do your own servicing!! Say "valve adjustment" to a PCX owner and they go into a cold sweat ....and well, it not pretty to watch..

You're looking at the LX version ??
Hmmmm....
Remember, they like the cold.(http://i61.tinypic.com/2dm61qa.jpg)

Stig(http://i57.tinypic.com/9izm20.jpg)

I just love that picture of your LIKE in the snow. It fits into the scenery nicely.
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: Vintage MX on November 03, 2014, 02:14:04 AM
How's this for hillclimbing speed? Moderate grade, 7000 feet above sea level, 60°F, premium gas, 230 pound rider... get ready for it... 30 mph. Davis Mountains in the Big Bend country of Texas. Great ride I'll post about separately....  Sure glad I upgraded from that Like 50!
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: CrzRani on November 06, 2014, 12:56:36 AM
Which dealer? I live in SoCal and got my 2013 Like200i for $2,850 Out the Door from Pacific Motorsports back in Dec.2013. Also I manged to get 45 MPH on a steep hill in San Pedro. Power on a freeway? Top Speed 55MPH I can prove it

http://youtu.be/SxvD4LlPOV8?list=LLjc4eWl-qsX5zZnn9kgpoaA (http://youtu.be/SxvD4LlPOV8?list=LLjc4eWl-qsX5zZnn9kgpoaA)

Dang!  I love all the posts.  And all the great ideas and as to what can be achieved with the illuminated trunk!  I really do love the color scheme and the retro look.  Seems like the hills shouldn't be an issue with all of the posts.

I got a OTD price of $2696 from Mountain Motorsports 'supposedly" cause I've purchased 3 other motorcycles from them in the past, so this was their best price.  I'm still on the fence to pull the trigger, cause I still have my other scooter.  I don't know why?  Perhaps cause the holidays are looming. 
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 06, 2014, 01:07:11 AM
Dang!  I love all the posts.  And all the great ideas and as to what can be achieved with the illuminated trunk!  I really do love the color scheme and the retro look.  Seems like the hills shouldn't be an issue with all of the posts.

I got a OTD price of $2696 from Mountain Motorsports 'supposedly" cause I've purchased 3 other motorcycles from them in the past, so this was their best price.  I'm still on the fence to pull the trigger, cause I still have my other scooter.  I don't know why?  Perhaps cause the holidays are looming. 
That might be a great price in your area...
But, have seen 'em at $2K.....plus paperwork and state tax.
Do take a look at some bigger Kymco's (300cc) going for $3K .....a size you may never need to up-scale.
Even if you have to have them shipped - could be a real baragain.
BUT, you could wait till after the holidays, deep in winter and watch what the prices drop to!
I paid $3200 out the doorfor my LIKE200iLX....and shouldn't have.....but didn't know any better.
That would have gotten me a new left-over 300cc Kymco.
Stig
Stig
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: LidoCA on November 06, 2014, 01:48:49 AM
That's a good price for the area. Stig, it is almost impossible to buy a new out of state bike if you reside in California . It's a bogus deal. You can bring one in if you move here, but you can't go get one.
 The 300's are still going for the mid $4k range here, plus you have to fight the add on fees they want to charge.
 I am waiting for the price to drop more before I buy another scooter.
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: CrzRani on November 06, 2014, 11:34:01 PM
That's a good price for the area. Stig, it is almost impossible to buy a new out of state bike if you reside in California . It's a bogus deal. You can bring one in if you move here, but you can't go get one.
 The 300's are still going for the mid $4k range here, plus you have to fight the add on fees they want to charge.
 I am waiting for the price to drop more before I buy another scooter.
Yea, I think most people forget that since we live in the wonderful state of California, we can't just buy a bike in another state and bring it in.   The 49-state bikes, don't apply in California; emission standards prevail.   The bike has to be used and have a minimum of 7,500 miles on it before you can register it in Cali.  Hence why buying new in CA is always more and usually just easier to pay the price difference.  And to clarify, the $2,696 is the "out the door" price (tax, license, title all included in that number). 

I'm going to go out this weekend and check it out, and knowing my impulse buying specialty as a woman, it'll probably end up in my garage. 

 8)
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 07, 2014, 12:27:13 AM
Yea, I think most people forget that since we live in the wonderful state of California, we can't just buy a bike in another state and bring it in.   The 49-state bikes, don't apply in California; emission standards prevail.   The bike has to be used and have a minimum of 7,500 miles on it before you can register it in Cali.  Hence why buying new in CA is always more and usually just easier to pay the price difference.  And to clarify, the $2,696 is the "out the door" price (tax, license, title all included in that number). 

I'm going to go out this weekend and check it out, and knowing my impulse buying specialty as a woman, it'll probably end up in my garage. 

 8)

Good luck...it is a pretty nice scooter!
I would have thought most vehicles are 50 state approved these days.
$2700 for a LIKE200i still seems a bit high - but you folks have more knowledge about CA prices.
We'll be needing pictures of your scoot parked in some SoCal scenery!
Stig
Title: Re: Uphill power? Does the Like 200i struggle up hills?
Post by: CrzRani on November 10, 2014, 06:23:16 PM
Well it's done!  The garage is getting very full of my bikes and my husband wants his work space back!  So I pulled the trigger and there he is - "still working on a name for my new toy"....He is so purdy and you guys were right; no problem getting around my hilly town, although I already do miss the gas mileage I get with my Met, but it's all good!.  I can't believe gas is in the $2-- here in Cali.  Amazing!  I guess depending on slow I want to ride that day, I've got all variations.  50, 200, 600, 1000. 

Thanks for all the info from everyone.  I know I'll be very happy with my purchase.....now to work on the lighted trunk.   ;D  That's a great idea.

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/ranibarks/Garage1114Bikes_zpsea59b002.jpg) (http://s1125.photobucket.com/user/ranibarks/media/Garage1114Bikes_zpsea59b002.jpg.html)