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Clutch problem or something else?
« on: March 25, 2012, 09:11:18 AM »
Hi guys!

Got some problem with idle and starting to move.

When clutch trying to kick in ive got some bumpy kicking...

3times i was disassemble it and first few miles was OK, then problem start to kick in.....

got no solution, picking at idle but why?
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 09:14:12 AM »
Probably 20th time I've wrote this on this forum.

Brakes in, open throttle, let go of the brakes slightly just to let the scooter slowly move forward.
Repeat 2-3 times.

Done.
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 09:54:45 AM »
know that solution. But this is opposite. It starts normal for few miles then problem kicks in. Even at ideling its picking to start.
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 09:57:45 AM »
know that solution. But this is opposite. It starts normal for few miles then problem kicks in. Even at ideling its picking to start.

Happened once, I did what I wrote, it went away.
It's usually the other thing but even that only came back twice in 20.000km.
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 10:34:58 AM »
mate,

i was burning the clutch as mad man....but cant go away, its just got worst....

seems to me like clutch is uneven, so its picnking at idle...
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 10:42:16 AM »
mate,

i was burning the clutch as mad man....but cant go away, its just got worst....

seems to me like clutch is uneven, so its picnking at idle...

Maybe it's time for a new one.
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 11:17:05 AM »
Hi guys!

Got some problem with idle and starting to move.

When clutch trying to kick in ive got some bumpy kicking...

3times i was disassemble it and first few miles was OK, then problem start to kick in.....

got no solution, picking at idle but why?

I was thinking to send you a PM just few days ago because you did not write anything on the forum for a long time.
How many kms do you have?
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 05:47:56 PM »
Sorry guys,

job and i bought z750 last septembar...

Agility was taking dust and cold alone, coz im a prick who drives bike all winter. In this case kawa was my choice! already have 10k in 6months....

Tried 2day 2go to Crikvenica....but no luck...some people are just lazy...

Needless to say Kymco gotta go....im selling it...

Bought new clutch kit....will test it 2morow....

 
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 05:56:37 PM »
Sorry guys,

job and i bought z750 last septembar...

Agility was taking dust and cold alone, coz im a prick who drives bike all winter. In this case kawa was my choice! already have 10k in 6months....

Tried 2day 2go to Crikvenica....but no luck...some people are just lazy...

Needless to say Kymco gotta go....im selling it...

Bought new clutch kit....will test it 2morow....

 

You'll be sorry..  ;D
I won't be without a scoot again!
Can do a lot of stuff on your Z.

p.s. I'm going to Crikvenica tommorow morning.  ;D
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 06:05:16 PM »
You'll be sorry..  ;D
I won't be without a scoot again!
Can do a lot of stuff on your Z.

p.s. I'm going to Crikvenica tommorow morning.  ;D

Yeap I know u r somewhere near Rijeka...
Maybe Ill see u some weekend there...can u PM me ur phone...
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2012, 06:50:39 PM »
Yeap I know u r somewhere near Rijeka...
Maybe Ill see u some weekend there...can u PM me ur phone...

I'm from Osijek actually ..  ;D I'll be staying on Krk for the next 4 days, but I'm going
home before weekend.
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 02:21:46 AM »
Check the Var/rollers/drive boss while you have it open. If any of those have ANY play you will feel it in the drive.
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2012, 05:49:00 PM »
Probably 20th time I've wrote this on this forum.

Brakes in, open throttle, let go of the brakes slightly just to let the scooter slowly move forward.
Repeat 2-3 times.

Done.

Sorry to drag this up, but how long do you hold it back and let it move slowly forward?  I have done this now twice, maybe not doing it long enough though, and yet when I take off it starts to take off and then it like jumps and almost pops the front tire off of the ground.  If I am not mistaken it is the same thing I read somewhere else that this so called fix is supposed to fix. 

Do I need to say do it 2 or 3 times going forward very slowly for say 15 to 20 feet at a time?  Or is a say 5 feet at a time sufficient?  Or should I look at something else being the cause?
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2012, 09:15:39 PM »
YEAP,

problem solved, it was clutch springs (didnt tell that i bought baotian clutch)....red paint isnt red malossi color...

put on yellow malossi....and i think thats it....clutch is engaged at higher rpms....no picking at low...

tnx guys....
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Re: Clutch problem or something else?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2012, 03:47:40 PM »
Sorry to drag this up, but how long do you hold it back and let it move slowly forward?  I have done this now twice, maybe not doing it long enough though, and yet when I take off it starts to take off and then it like jumps and almost pops the front tire off of the ground.  If I am not mistaken it is the same thing I read somewhere else that this so called fix is supposed to fix. 

Do I need to say do it 2 or 3 times going forward very slowly for say 15 to 20 feet at a time?  Or is a say 5 feet at a time sufficient?  Or should I look at something else being the cause?

I can't say that I was really paying attention on how long or how far I was going doing it, but it took under a minute, and I've had
to do it twice in 12k+ miles to get rid of the surging start, and it didn't come back after that.

The key is to get the revs as high up as possible, and keep the clutch slipping as much as possible and that means going
very slow, walking pace slow. 2 or 3 short runs and it was smooth as butter after that!
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