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Title: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 05, 2016, 12:47:14 PM
Yesterday I saw an advertisement in cycle trader for a new unsold 2013 Yamaha Majesty. I decided to take a 140 mile "wind therapy" ride to rebuild confidence in my 2009 Xciting 250 and perhaps stop by just to see The Majesty. Well, it was reduced to 2999.00. I figured that my credit was not good enough. But they insisted that I fill out an application just to see. Well it wasn't as bad I thought. And with my old Kymco as a trade, I could ride away with no money down and payments I could afford. THEY WERE GOOD! 😂. And several hours later, I rode away on a 2013 Majesty with .1 miles on the odometer. And a factory warranty.  The challenge was to ride the 140 miles at break in speeds. I did cheat (for a short while)  just to see the highway capability. And while the speedometer accuracy in not as good as my Xciting, I was able to EASILY hit a true 75 with the engine nowhere near redline.

I'll do an oil change at the required 500 miles. Take it easy for 1200 miles, then let her rip.


YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT! I'll pop in from time to time just to keep in touch.
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 05, 2016, 01:02:52 PM
The Xciting 250ri is not a bad machine. I just felt that I was pushing it at its limits nearly every day which would eventually compromise its reliability. 50 miles one way at nearly 65 combined with the return trip at 60 mph was more than it was designed to do on a daily basis, I believe . If they had put the DOWNTOWN engine in the Xciting, or would have imported the Xciting 400, it would have been the PERFECT combination of power and economy .

The Magesty got 55 mpg with me accelerating and decelerating constantly. I expect it to improve some as it gets broken in and I drive with a steady hand. The Xciting 250 would get 68 mpg at 60 mph. But when pushed to 65+, it would drop to as low as 55.
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: beermak on June 05, 2016, 01:36:53 PM
congrats on the magesty. thats a great machine. brake in... dont care. use it like you stole it. just make sure you do a early oil change. after the first oil change use it normally as you would in the future.
i believe the harder you ride it the better its going to perform overall.
bikes cars boats no difference. if it breakes its in warranty and if it doeas it was ment to fail anyways. better before...

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Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: klaviator on June 05, 2016, 02:38:56 PM
I bought a NOS 2012 Majesty last year.  Great scooter.  I still have my Super 8 150 so I guess I can stick around here :)
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 05, 2016, 03:29:10 PM
Yesterday I saw an advertisement in cycle trader for a new unsold 2013 Yamaha Majesty. I decided to take a 140 mile "wind therapy" ride to rebuild confidence in my 2009 Xciting 250 and perhaps stop by just to see The Majesty. Well, it was reduced to 2999.00. I figured that my credit was not good enough. But they insisted that I fill out an application just to see. Well it wasn't as bad I thought. And with my old Kymco as a trade, I could ride away with no money down and payments I could afford. THEY WERE GOOD! 😂. And several hours later, I rode away on a 2013 Majesty with .1 miles on the odometer. And a factory warranty.  The challenge was to ride the 140 miles at break in speeds. I did cheat (for a short while)  just to see the highway capability. And while the speedometer accuracy in not as good as my Xciting, I was able to EASILY hit a true 75 with the engine nowhere near redline.

I'll do an oil change at the required 500 miles. Take it easy for 1200 miles, then let her rip.


YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT! I'll pop in from time to time just to keep in touch.
Break it in as though you plan to keep it beyond the warranty expiration date !!
OK, that's a great scooter at a great price - but we have a thing here - says "it didn't happen unless we see pictures!"
We love these Yamahas.....picture please. A couple.
And how did a Yamaha scooter sit for 3 years unsold in Florida for Pete's Sake - that ain't exactly N. Dakota for scooter ridin' country!? You guys are knee-deep in scooters.
Good job - you made the right move I think, for your commute distances.
Take your time - follow the manual (written by the people who made your scooter) - lots of oil changes with dino oil for a few thousand miles say the mechanics whom I trust....then you can go to synthetic if you want.
OK, go out and take pictures of this new scooter.
Stig
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 05, 2016, 07:11:42 PM
Break it in as though you plan to keep it beyond the warranty expiration date !!
OK, that's a great scooter at a great price - but we have a thing here - says "it didn't happen unless we see pictures!"
We love these Yamahas.....picture please. A couple.
And how did a Yamaha scooter sit for 3 years unsold in Florida for Pete's Sake - that ain't exactly N. Dakota for scooter ridin' country!? You guys are knee-deep in scooters.
Good job - you made the right move I think, for your commute distances.
Take your time - follow the manual (written by the people who made your scooter) - lots of oil changes with dino oil for a few thousand miles say the mechanics whom I trust....then you can go to synthetic if you want.
OK, go out and take pictures of this new scooter.
Stig
I had planned on putting as many miles possible on it today after church. And I was planning on doing a lot of break in style riding. But Wouldn't you know, it decided to rain today. And Rain is forecast for tomorrow [emoji26][emoji26][emoji26][emoji24][emoji24]

But I'll get some pictures as soon as the weather cooperates. , and I can stop riding long enough to take a few pictures.


I regret not taking more of my Kymco Xciting. But lol miss it. It gave me the riding bug. I'm hooked.





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Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 05, 2016, 07:21:57 PM

And how did a Yamaha scooter sit for 3 years unsold in Florida for Pete's Sake - that ain't exactly N. Dakota for scooter ridin' country!? You guys are knee-deep in scooters.
Good job - you made the right move I think, for your commute distances.
Take your time - follow the manual (written by the people who made your scooter) - lots of oil changes with dino oil for a few thousand miles say the mechanics whom I trust....then you can go to synthetic if you want.
OK, go out and take pictures of this new scooter.
Stig
From what the dealer said, they recently Purchased 4 of them from Yamaha for a deeply discounted price and passed the savings on. I suspect they were sitting around in a different region of the country. When I got there, they hadn't put any of them on display yet. They were still in their warehouse. They had a 2014 on the showroom floor . That's the one I sat on.

I did something that I USUALLY advise no one to do. I bought it without even test riding it. But it looked so similar size wise to the Xciting that I knew it would handle similarly. It does. It's just smoother and faster. And the engine just loafs along by comparison.


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Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 05, 2016, 07:25:06 PM
By the way, I purchased the 2009 Xciting 250 in January without test riding it either because I had no motorcycle endorsement at the time. Lucky in both cases.


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Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 06, 2016, 12:31:38 AM
By the way, I purchased the 2009 Xciting 250 in January without test riding it either because I had no motorcycle endorsement at the time. Lucky in both cases.


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Gainesville dealer?
How much added for set up...fees etc.
To get out the door in otherwords for a cash purchase ?
Thanks
Stig
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 06, 2016, 04:19:00 AM
Gainesville dealer?
How much added for set up...fees etc.
To get out the door in otherwords for a cash purchase ?
Thanks
Stig
Ended up financing it. But the dealer fees were outrageous! They nearly brought the price back up to the original price. I was so surprised that I could escape with zero down and take it home that day that broke  another rule. I fell in love with the thing. And I fell for the affordable payments. But anyway, the extras were as follows: freight 497.00. Dealer set up. 388.00. Dealer fee 499.95. Yep. They saw me coming. But I have a NEW scooter. I've never even owned a new car. So, I cam cross this off my bucket list. Lol

I really WISH that my local KYMCO dealer had had a NeW Xciting 500 in stock at a markdown because their dealer fees are MUCH more reasonable. But they only had the Downtown and the other 300cc and BELOW scooters in stock .

That's the difference between a local mom and pop dealer ( All About Scooters) vs a chain of dealerships like the one I dealt with yesterday. (RIDENOW POWERSPORTS)
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: MJR on June 06, 2016, 07:41:47 AM
Price doesn't really matter, being happy with it does. We don't buy these things as investments, we buy them because they add enjoyment to our lives.
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: mrmike on June 06, 2016, 09:37:53 AM


I really WISH that my local KYMCO dealer had had a NeW Xciting 500 in stock at a markdown because their dealer fees are MUCH more reasonable. But they only had the Downtown and the other 300cc and BELOW scooters in stock .

I don't know much about the machine you bought, but if the other 300cc the Kymco dealer had was a GTI300 you should have tried it. I think you would have been quite impressed with the performance.
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 06, 2016, 09:58:07 AM
A new Yamaha Majesty is one sweet scooter to throw a leg over every morning!
Yes Heaven is going to be incredible.....which likely includes a lot full of Majestys....
DTs....GTi s.....SilverWings....BV350s.....and Vespas with leather seats!
Enjoy your superb scooter and Florida riding. ..safely!
Pictures.....?
Stig
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 06, 2016, 11:26:05 AM
A new Yamaha Majesty is one sweet scooter to throw a leg over every morning!
Yes Heaven is going to be incredible.....which likely includes a lot full of Majestys....
DTs....GTi s.....SilverWings....BV350s.....and Vespas with leather seats!
Enjoy your superb scooter and Florida riding. ..safely!
Pictures.....?
Stig
True. It's a sweet scooter. Seems just a little easier to maneuver at really low speeds than the Xciting 250.
 As for scooters in Heaven, that's not what I preach to my congregation. But I think that's one of the pleasant surprises we might find there to ride on those streets paved with gold. Lol.

 Pictures? The weather cleared up for several hours yesterday. So I rode around and took a few pictures with my iPad. But i need to know how to make them fit. It says the file is too large when I try to upload. Any tips?


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Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 06, 2016, 11:35:02 AM

I really WISH that my local KYMCO dealer had had a NeW Xciting 500 in stock at a markdown because their dealer fees are MUCH more reasonable. But they only had the Downtown and the other 300cc and BELOW scooters in stock .

I don't know much about the machine you bought, but if the other 300cc the Kymco dealer had was a GTI300 you should have tried it. I think you would have been quite impressed with the performance.
I'm sure the GTI300 is a great scooter. But it's not really my style. I fell in love with the maxi scooter look and the large under seat storage. Wouldn't mind having one as a second scooter if I get to the place where I can afford it.


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Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: CROSSBOLT on June 06, 2016, 12:45:29 PM
Like MJR said, you being happy is the main thing. $388 for set-up is nuts considering how little the dealers do and what they screw up. Oh, well, most don't count on you ever coming back it seems. Enjoy and don't be a stranger. Spill the details for us "knuckle draggers" as you learn them from your Majesty.

Karl
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Iahawk on June 06, 2016, 03:36:11 PM
Forbes, you can go to your photos on your ipad and select the one you want. Click on the icon in the upper right, looks like a box with an arrow pointing up in it..then click email and address it to yourself. The email will tell you the size of the photo and you can click on that and it will give you various size options.

Choose a much smaller one, email to yourself, open new email and save smaller photo to ipad. You can then upload the new, smaller photo for all of us to see.
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 06, 2016, 04:43:19 PM
Thanks Iahawk.


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Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: gn2 on June 08, 2016, 09:02:32 AM
Possibly the best feature of the Majesty 400 is the valve clearance check interval.
Have a look at the service schedule in the owner's manual, you're in for a very pleasant surprise.

Don't get too carried away though, its shims....
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 08, 2016, 09:45:33 AM
Possibly the best feature of the Majesty 400 is the valve clearance check interval.
Have a look at the service schedule in the owner's manual, you're in for a very pleasant surprise.

Don't get too carried away though, its shims....
Yes, I saw it. At first I was elated at the extended interval. But when I saw that it was shims my joy was tempered. However, if my experience with automobiles using shims is any indication, adjustments are very seldom needed because when checked, they are most often still within specs. I HOPE that's the case with this engine too,


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Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: klaviator on June 08, 2016, 01:39:01 PM
Yes, I saw it. At first I was elated at the extended interval. But when I saw that it was shims my joy was tempered. However, if my experience with automobiles using shims is any indication, adjustments are very seldom needed because when checked, they are most often still within specs. I HOPE that's the case with this engine too,


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As long as my majesty is running well, I'll probably wait until 30-40000 miles to have the valves checked.  It will most likely be a one time thing.  Yamaha's with shims tend to hold their clearances really well.  My 83 venture went 72000 without having any valves adjusted.  My XT 350 had a valve check interval of 4000 miles but I didn't do any adjustments until around 18K and they weren't that far out of spec. 
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 08, 2016, 05:06:28 PM
As long as my majesty is running well, I'll probably wait until 30-40000 miles to have the valves checked.  It will most likely be a one time thing.  Yamaha's with shims tend to hold their clearances really well.  My 83 venture went 72000 without having any valves adjusted.  My XT 350 had a valve check interval of 4000 miles but I didn't do any adjustments until around 18K and they weren't that far out of spec.

I had a Toyota supra with shims. At 110k I had to replace the head gasket. The clearances were in spec. Since I didn't have to mess with the valves, I kept the shims in order. When I totalled the car at 180k, I still had not adjusted the valves even though they called for adjustment at 45k or so. I sold the engine. The new owner eventually replaced the crank bearings. Still no valve problem.

I've found that on car engines, shim type valves tend to be almost as good as hydraulic IF the oil is changed regularly. I'm not saying that the Yamaha will be that good. But it's a good omen.
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 12, 2016, 07:08:25 PM
I FINALLY got a chance to send the photos of the Majesty. I also found an opportunity to share my alma mater --Florida A&M University, Tallahassee, Florida.
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 12, 2016, 07:13:58 PM
Another angle
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 12, 2016, 07:20:57 PM
Break it in as though you plan to keep it beyond the warranty expiration date !!
OK, that's a great scooter at a great price - but we have a thing here - says "it didn't happen unless we see pictures!"
We love these Yamahas.....picture please. A couple.
And how did a Yamaha scooter sit for 3 years unsold in Florida for Pete's Sake - that ain't exactly N. Dakota for scooter ridin' country!? You guys are knee-deep in scooters.
Good job - you made the right move I think, for your commute distances.
Take your time - follow the manual (written by the people who made your scooter) - lots of oil changes with dino oil for a few thousand miles say the mechanics whom I trust....then you can go to synthetic if you want.
OK, go out and take pictures of this new scooter.
Stig
Well, I guess it really happened. Here are the pictures.
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 12, 2016, 07:23:36 PM
Final photo of this series. I'm not as good of a photographer as Stig. But it think it looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: MJR on June 13, 2016, 06:51:04 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: AMAC1680 on June 13, 2016, 08:51:01 AM
(Snip)
And how did a Yamaha scooter sit for 3 years unsold in Florida for Pete's Sake - that ain't exactly N. Dakota for scooter ridin' country!?
Stig

Because he's a cycle dealer first who will only sell discounted scooters. Doesn't make them bad dealers just cycle dealers. The local Honda dealers have NOS Forzas and Swings. The 200 Burgmans sit and so on. It's a more competitive market with he Tiawan offerings here.

AMAC
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on June 13, 2016, 10:14:49 AM
Very very nice!
Majestys are very handsome scooters.
Love that they don't feel compelled to offer only black seats.
That has got to be cooler after parked in Florida!
Last time I was in Tallahassee I stayed in the men's dorm of FSU....visiting a fla
me from Paris days. She was in the school's circus. Do they still have that....or am I not remembering any of this correctly?
Thanks for taking the time to post the pix of your superb new scooter!
Stig
Well done on that scooter!
Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Forbes1964 on June 13, 2016, 10:59:35 AM
Very very nice!
Majestys are very handsome scooters.
Love that they don't feel compelled to offer only black seats.
That has got to be cooler after parked in Florida!
Last time I was in Tallahassee I stayed in the men's dorm of FSU....visiting a fla
me from Paris days. She was in the school's circus. Do they still have that....or am I not remembering any of this correctly?
Thanks for taking the time to post the pix of your superb new scooter!
Stig
Well done on that scooter!
Yes, the seat is cooler. A welcome benefit. . But I have to be diligent about keeping it clean.  And yes, your memory is correct. FSU still has the "Flying High Circus"


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Title: Re: Leaving KYMCO 😢
Post by: Scooter Dan on June 13, 2016, 12:20:53 PM
Oh my, what a handsome scooter. What color is that? The seat color is ellegant and matches the bike perfectly. Put a top box on it and you have a great car replacement.

A 400cc scooter is no slouch as my wife and I rode our Burgman 400 on the freeway in San Diego at 80 mph, the PCH, rode the Highway of Legends from Waldenburg CO. to Trinidad, the Front Range and Sedona, Az., all 2 up without issue or lack of power. Even with Deb onboard I could pull the holeshot off the line with most vehicles to find that sweet spot ahead of traffic. On the Burgman forum, the 400 is perhaps more popular than the 650, especially with older riders.

You've got a sweet ride my friend, enjoy it.

Dan