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Scooters - 125 to 300 => People GT 300i => Topic started by: Faber32 on July 06, 2022, 02:38:38 PM
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Hi guys :) Another job waiting for me. The clutch on my People Gti works really bad, it's time to replace it. Do you know if the removal tools on the market fit Kymco clutches? I suspect that the three pin on the tool don't match with the holes on the clutch.
Thank you :-)
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I'm not familiar with the GT 300 clutch...when you remove the cvt cover, does the clutch bell look like a standard one? If so you can use a variator / clutch holding tool ..either buy a universal one or make it yourself (I chose the latter).
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Hi, thank you this is a great idea. To remove the 39 mm nut, I can use the impact wrench. To reinstall it and torque it I could try with your method. I'll think about it :)
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I apologize, I think we're talking about 2 different things, here. I was referring to the clutch bell nut - and how to remove that. You are asking about the large nut on the clutch itself? I've removed that with an impact wrench, and putting both feet on the clutch, holding it on the floor so it doesn't spring apart when the large nut is loosened. To torque it back I just used the same impact wrench and held it in the same position, on the floor with one foot on either side of the large nut.
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I didn't have a 39mm socket for the big clutch nut....but a 1.5" socket - tapped on - works a treat!
Stig
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Thank you very much ;)
I have extracted from a recent video some pics of the clutch thickness. I know it's not easy from pictures, but you have more experience than me. Is it in your opinion to replace?
Service manual says minimum thickness 4 mm if I remember well.
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Thank you very much ;)
I have extracted from a recent video some pics of the clutch thickness. I know it's not easy from pictures, but you have more experience than me. Is it in your opinion to replace?
Service manual says minimum thickness 4 mm if I remember well.
My cyclepedia manual states 2mm is the service limit for clutch pads on a LIKE200i.
My opinion is that your clutch pads look good for some miles yet.
Perhaps they need :
1) black residue dust removed
2) a de-glazing the pads with some sand paper
3) thorough cleaning inside the clutch bell
If your take-up as you pull away is still jerking or rough - perhaps you might try to be a bit more abrupt with the throttle to limit the lippage on take-offs. Not harsh - but babying the clutch can lead to glazed pads fairly quickly and its resulting jerky behavior.
Just my thoughts - granted I don't own a bigger scoot like yours.
Stig
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I agree with Stig..those clutch pads look like they have plenty of life left. I'd also give them a quick scrub with some sandpaper to remove any glaze and do the same to the inside of your clutch bell. No reason to replace that clutch.
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Thank you guys :). Years ago my Kymco dealer told me it's a common issue on People Gti and that they jerk and they replace them very often. Don't know if it's true. I'll give a try sanding. Anyway I think I'm under the 4 mm of the service manual. I'll see if it improves sanding. Thanks again
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@Faber32, just in case your clutch is still open...!!
Sand the shoes a bit, then soak it with WD 40 or similar. Let it sit for a while, you'll see any jerking and rattling is gone.
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@Ruffus: thank you :)
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Ruffus, how does soaking the pads w WD-40 help? Never heard that before...
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Ruffus,
Using WD40 or an equivalent lubricant on a scooter's clutch pads is a controversial suggestion.
Brake cleaner maybe, WD40 no.....is pretty common thinking.
I imagine you have a shop mechanic suggesting this - but I think you will find little support from a majority of scooter owners or mechanics.
Manufacturers place nothing between clutch pads and the inside surface of the metal clutch bells.
But I'm certain you have your reasons for suggesting WD40.
Stig
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There are many things between sky and earth which seem to be weird. But this works and is not controversial.
And BTW, WD is not a lubricant.
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There are many things between sky and earth which seem to be weird. But this works and is not controversial.
And BTW, WD is not a lubricant.
Lubricant on not, we'll have to agree to disagree on using WD40 on clutch pads Ruffus.
Stig
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Lubricant on not, (quote Stig)
..exactely because WD40 is NOT a lubricant, it can be used for this purpose with great success.
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My cyclepedia manual states 2mm is the service limit for clutch pads on a LIKE200i.
Stig
@ Stig
Are those cyclepedia manuals worth getting, I am looking at getting one?
Thanks.
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@ Stig
Are those cyclepedia manuals worth getting, I am looking at getting one?
Thanks.
People have opinions about cyclepedia manuals.
Me, I bought one early in my ownership .....and used the heck out of it. I'm pretty handy.....but I wanted the help of professional scooter mechanics.....so I didn't needlessly screw something up!
Very happy with my purchase.
Plus....you can ask questions by starting a service ticket.
Syig
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I was gonna say, "What they said" until WD-40 came up. We had a guy on here several years ago suggesting putting some kind of grease on the clutch! I ignored that suggestion, too! I don't know. It may be the best thing yet. All I know is that WD-40 gets gummy and sticky when it sets, dries, whatever.
We have both GTi300 and DT300i and both have identical clutches. They are in design and character the same as the Agility 50 and the Yager 200i. Sand off the glaze, sand inside the bell and clean out the dust, use aggressive starts rather than "feathering." Repeat when necessary.
Shows how much the dealer techs know replacing these thing when they get grabby-crabby. Sell lotsa clutches. Not their money....