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Title: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: boo on January 21, 2017, 02:40:52 PM
And now i`m concerned. I was putting fuel stabilizer and and octane booster in my GT. Haven`t been riding much lately because of bad weather.
I opened one of the bottles, lined it over the gas tank hole to pour. Low and behold a little cardboard seal was stuck to the end of the bottle and I did not notice it. Just as I began to pour, I saw the seal fall right into my gas tank. sh**!.
I got a flashlight and my retrieval tool to try to remove it. Tank was almost full of gas.
I could not see the seal. The tank is irregular in shape. Guess i`ll have to siphon the gas out and try again.
Harbor Freight sells a video inspection tool for about $60-$70. May have to go that rout. Real expensive for such a simple mistake. Don`t want to pull the gas tank.
Any suggestions?.
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: Yellow Jacket on January 21, 2017, 04:01:05 PM
That piece of cardboard can't get past the fuel filter, just ride the bike and don't worry about it.  What is the reason for the octane booster? 
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 21, 2017, 04:07:53 PM
Thinking the same thing - my fuel pump pick-up is through a filter bag. That piece can't get through the filter.
If really concerned, (about it disintegrating into particles, for instance) drain her down to a small amount and slosh it around until it comes into view and get it with your kitchen tongs. I once lost all the plastic bits off of the end of a Volare' distributor into the engine.....nothing bad happened before the engine exploded. :)
Nah, just kidding.
Stig
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: boo on January 21, 2017, 04:13:27 PM
That piece of cardboard can't get past the fuel filter, just ride the bike and don't worry about it.  What is the reason for the octane booster?

Like Stig said, i`m concerned the seal will melt and clog my filter and kill my engine when i`m out riding. Don`t like the idea of possibly breaking down on the side of the road way out in the boonies.
I use a little octane booster to try to keep the gas from getting stale while sitting.
I also add a small amount of fuel injector cleaner occasionally.
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: Mr. Paul on January 21, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
Stig had the best suggestion. Just keep at it until it comes into view. BTW Stig, did that Volare' have the rich Corinthian leather?
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 21, 2017, 06:47:32 PM
Stig had the best suggestion. Just keep at it until it comes into view. BTW Stig, did that Volare' have the rich Corinthian leather?
It was a base model 6 cyl. VOLAR, but had the great full-gauge package on the dash. I inherited it from my Grandpa when he passed. He'd knocked the E's off on both sides ....on the curved bridge guard rails 100 yards from the VFW. He used the guard rails to get him around the curve a few times on his way home....kinda dirt-tracking it around the bend. Never knew whether it was his refreshments, or the cataracts that required this bumper-car style.
 GOOD running car, otherwise....but with metal-on-glass wiper blades and a thoroughly burnt rear carpet and rear seat. He used to empty his still lit pipe by reaching behind the front seat and knocking out the ashes. Apparently he thought the smell of burning VOLAR was just his pipe tobacco. He did this for a couple of decades.**

When first dating my future wife - I used to park the best side of the VOLAR facing her apt. ....though both sides were a little rough in the daylight. (my three kids always made me let them out a few blocks from school) Once I was certain she could make an apple pie and I'd gotten a ring on her...I gave up that practice.
Stig
** I tried to cover the smell with a bunch of those hanging pine tree car scents. My kids said it just made the car smell like a forest fire.
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: CROSSBOLT on January 21, 2017, 09:02:04 PM
 ;D Oh, Stig, you just KILL me!

Karl
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: Mr. Paul on January 21, 2017, 09:49:09 PM
Absolutely hilarious Stig!!
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: boo on January 21, 2017, 09:52:14 PM
And now i`m concerned. I was putting fuel stabilizer and and octane booster in my GT. Haven`t been riding much lately because of bad weather.
I opened one of the bottles, lined it over the gas tank hole to pour. Low and behold a little cardboard seal was stuck to the end of the bottle and I did not notice it. Just as I began to pour, I saw the seal fall right into my gas tank. sh**!.
I got a flashlight and my retrieval tool to try to remove it. Tank was almost full of gas.
I could not see the seal. The tank is irregular in shape. Guess i`ll have to siphon the gas out and try again.
Harbor Freight sells a video inspection tool for about $60-$70. May have to go that rout. Real expensive for such a simple mistake. Don`t want to pull the gas tank.
Any suggestions?.

Update: 1/21/17
Got it out. It a bit of an ordeal. Took me about three hours.
Guys, be careful with those additive bottles. Can be a problem for scooter, motorcycle, or car. Taught me a lesson.
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: Mr. Paul on January 22, 2017, 01:05:29 AM
Glad you got it out! Good thing beer bottles dont come with those things. :)
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: wheels on January 22, 2017, 08:24:23 PM
Good one , STIG !    ;D
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: ole two wheels on January 23, 2017, 02:33:00 AM
You don't put beer in your scooter, do you Mr Paul?

Mac
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: Mr. Paul on January 23, 2017, 10:21:58 AM
You don't put beer in your scooter, do you Mr Paul?

Mac


No I dont Mac. Nothing but good old petrol. It would be a choke hazard in a beer bottle though. My attempt at  humor.  :-\
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: ole two wheels on January 23, 2017, 03:48:16 PM
Hee Hee


Mac
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 23, 2017, 06:59:48 PM
And now i`m concerned. I was putting fuel stabilizer and and octane booster in my GT. Haven`t been riding much lately because of bad weather.
I opened one of the bottles, lined it over the gas tank hole to pour. Low and behold a little cardboard seal was stuck to the end of the bottle and I did not notice it. Just as I began to pour, I saw the seal fall right into my gas tank. sh**!.
I got a flashlight and my retrieval tool to try to remove it. Tank was almost full of gas.
I could not see the seal. The tank is irregular in shape. Guess i`ll have to siphon the gas out and try again.
Harbor Freight sells a video inspection tool for about $60-$70. May have to go that rout. Real expensive for such a simple mistake. Don`t want to pull the gas tank.
Any suggestions?.
Boo, regarding the octane booster: Would it be cheaper to go with a tank of Shell V-Power premium gas?
SHELL claims that this is the most advanced gasoline currently on the market.
V-Power Nitro+ adds chemicals to the company's gas that allegedly coats parts to prevent engine wear and protect fuel system components.


Get cleaning and protective additives, as well as higher octane.
All Top Tier fuels are supposed to have some cleaners and protectives in them - like the Shell.

Just wondering - Have been running my LIKE200i, Forza 300 and Burgman 400 on BP premium from day one.....and switched to this SHELL gas a few months ago.
Stig
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: leomagnus on January 27, 2017, 03:25:17 PM
Boo, I did the exact damn thing with a Startron additive I put in the tank for the winter. From three feet away, the wind blew the little plastic/cardboard sealcover from inside the cap right into my full gas tank....really pissed me off. I am bringing it down to the dealer to have it removed along with the tune-up I usually get before I go back riding again in the spring. What a nuisance....
 >:(
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: boo on January 27, 2017, 11:47:27 PM
Boo, I did the exact damn thing with a Startron additive I put in the tank for the winter. From three feet away, the wind blew the little plastic/cardboard sealcover from inside the cap right into my full gas tank....really pissed me off. I am bringing it down to the dealer to have it removed along with the tune-up I usually get before I go back riding again in the spring. What a nuisance....
 >:(

Sorry to hear that. I know first hand how troubling it can be. If you decide to tackle it yourself, I will tell you how I got that cardboard seal out of my tank.
I went to Harbor Freight and bought digital display tool. With a 20% off coupon, I think it was about $50-$55. It has a glass lens and the gasoline did not appear to damage it. I siphoned as much gas as I could from the tank. I inserted the display tool and spotted the small disc lying on the bottom of the tank. It was small and flat so I had trouble getting hold of it. I decided to use a long piece of wire sharpened to a pin point to see if I could "stick it". I did and it worked. I slowly and carefully remove the seal. I had to remove the under seat pan and take the screws out of the top of the fuel pump to lift it up enough so I could get a straighter shot at the disk. I was relieved when I got it out.
Title: Re: I pulled a good one yesterday
Post by: leomagnus on January 28, 2017, 06:22:45 PM
Thanks for the tip, we have a Harbour Freight near where I live. I'll give it a shot.