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Title: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Pavel_proo on March 12, 2021, 11:12:03 PM
Hello everyone, I was lucky enough to get my hands on a 2009 250ri. With super low mileage. It pretty much didn't move until I purchased it. Upon purchase I have immediately noticed that the bike vibrates(mostly feels at floorboards) at rpms higher than 6500 and at speeds above 62mph or so. I have already replaced both original tires and balance wheels, not much difference. I have went further and replace the belt, what improved things slightly, but not enough. I have already checked valve clearances and adjust properly. Any suggestions as to where else to look?
Otherwise the scooter seems to drive just fine with good acceleration, etc.
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: JJJoseph on March 14, 2021, 05:51:57 AM
Helkp us out: what is a "250ri"??
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Kansas kymco on March 14, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
I know your getting close to red line on the tach so I could see a little added vibration.   I had a vibration on my 09 250 RI above 55mph but mine was a front wheel out of balance. Previous owner had new City Grip's installed and balanced but the front tire was off balance.
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on March 14, 2021, 03:38:15 PM
Helkp us out: what is a "250ri"??

(https://i.postimg.cc/15wkYJB6/ri.jpg)

Stig
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Neil955i on March 15, 2021, 10:36:27 AM
Define "super low mileage"?  If less than 3K miles, I'd say wait until it's done a few more before looking to fix any "problem".  I had similar with my X-Town 300i from new and this all but disappeared at about 3,000 miles.  I put it down to full smoothness (if a single-pot bike can ever be classed as "smooth") not being reached until the scooter is properly broken in?
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: CROSSBOLT on March 15, 2021, 02:24:21 PM
Vibration in sync with road speed or engine speed?
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Neil955i on March 16, 2021, 09:46:50 AM
Vibration in sync with road speed or engine speed?

I'm guessing it will be engine speed (mine was) rather than an unbalanced wheel?
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Pavel_proo on March 19, 2021, 06:32:15 PM
It seems to be more engine speed related.
I am still not sure where to look.
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Pavel_proo on March 19, 2021, 06:33:14 PM
Define "super low mileage"?  If less than 3K miles, I'd say wait until it's done a few more before looking to fix any "problem".  I had similar with my X-Town 300i from new and this all but disappeared at about 3,000 miles.  I put it down to full smoothness (if a single-pot bike can ever be classed as "smooth") not being reached until the scooter is properly broken in?
280 miles at time of purchase 8)
1500 now
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: CROSSBOLT on March 19, 2021, 09:41:00 PM
I'm guessing it will be engine speed (mine was) rather than an unbalanced wheel?
Engine speed, may have a stuck or damaged roller in the variator..
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Pavel_proo on March 20, 2021, 01:56:30 AM
Engine speed, may have a stuck or damaged roller in the variator..
I got Tech Pulley Flying Roller II sliders installed today. Will report tomorrow as to how that worked out.
By the way Tech Pulley is supposedly a next gen of Dr. Pulley and claims to be even better preforming.
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Pavel_proo on March 26, 2021, 08:03:58 PM
Sorry for no updates. Bike doesn't start. Will update once fixed.
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Pavel_proo on April 02, 2021, 02:00:35 AM
So, got the bike fixed all good now.
However as for vibration it seems perfectly smooth up to about 65 mph when vibration starts and gets gradually worse with 70+ being uncomfortable quite a bit. With new sliders the cruising rpm went down so that's probably why the vibration now starts at a higher speed. So it is definitely engine speed related and not ground speed related.
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Kansas kymco on April 02, 2021, 02:18:03 AM
So, got the bike fixed all good now.
However as for vibration it seems perfectly smooth up to about 65 mph when vibration starts and gets gradually worse with 70+ being uncomfortable quite a bit. With new sliders the cruising rpm went down so that's probably why the vibration now starts at a higher speed. So it is definitely engine speed related and not ground speed related.
65 mph on mine is red line. What's red line now with the new sliders?
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Pavel_proo on April 02, 2021, 01:32:35 PM
65 mph on mine is red line. What's red line now with the new sliders?
I tried pushing it to 80mph(8000+ rpm) yesterday two up and it did fine except for engine vibration.
Right now 65mph is just slightly over 6500rpm. 23g tech pulley flying roller II sliders and malossi belt.
I am actually starting to think that what I describe as a vibration is really a normal motor vibration for a a 1 cylinder.
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Neil955i on April 04, 2021, 09:09:53 AM
I am actually starting to think that what I describe as a vibration is really a normal motor vibration for a a 1 cylinder.

Nailed it! I share that opinion.  Learn to love the character, it’s like a BSA C15 without the noise or the oil leaks!
Title: Re: Vibration at high RPM/SPEED
Post by: Pavel_proo on April 05, 2021, 04:02:20 PM
Small update. I ended up ordering a pair of foam grips so hope that should help somewhat.