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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2015, 04:12:34 AM »
I have used and experimented with the Dr Pulleys for some time now. I have 3 kymco GTI scoots and I experiment on all 3. The best rollers are the OEM in my opinion. I actually found a 14 gram roller which I find better than the Dr Pulleys
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I find that the mid range and low end torque is lost with the Dr Pulleys.

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« Last Edit: November 22, 2015, 04:19:46 AM by agilebda »

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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2015, 02:35:25 PM »
Thank you so much for this very detailed exlanation-I will build this!

One question -what is the semicircular notch on the right hand side of the tool for?

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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2015, 04:30:24 PM »
what is the semicircular notch on the right hand side of the tool for?
   I originally made this for my Yamaha C3.  That notch locks on top of the center stand.   
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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2015, 01:41:02 AM »
Here's my cheap, home made holding tool. Get about 3 feet of 1/4 X 1 inch flat stock from Lowe's. Drill and tap two 1/4-20 holes near the ends. Cut to about 1 foot. Now you have 2 pieces, 1 foot and 2 feet long. Drill 1/4 inch holes for the hinge. On the pivoting arm I put a nut on the bolt to make both bolts the same height. I had to file the two bolts down just a little to get them to go into the holes on the outer part of the variator. That's it. Since it's adjustable I can use it for other applications.



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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2015, 02:25:11 AM »
Wow=that looks incredibly simple yet effective! I'm guessing you hold the longer end with your other hand-or with your foot maybe?

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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2015, 04:00:48 AM »
Usually I can put the long end against a fixed part of the bike, i.e., the clutch bell, side stand etc. Cheap and does just what it need to.
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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2015, 03:40:50 PM »
I'm reading now that the nut must be tightned to factory specified torque--requiring a torque wrench to measure the exact torgue. Does anyone know the factory specified torque measurement for the 17mm variator nut?

Also, if I do get an impact wrench, will I still need to hold onto the pulley or the variator when removing the nut with an impact wrench?

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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2015, 10:01:15 PM »
The torque should be somewhere North of 70lbs on your 300.  It is okay to go tighter.  There is a lot posted on Variator nuts coming loose on the SYM forum.  The most important thing is to be sure your belt is out of the way when you tighten it.   An impact wrench will move the nut (on or off) without having to hold the variator.    I use a 12V impact wrench from Harbor Freight.  It clips to your battery terminals.  It was around $25, and works great for variator and clutch nuts.  I put a sharpie line going across the shaft and the nut.  When I tighten, I go slightly past the line.  I prefer to use the holder and the torque wrench, but have worked on a couple of scooter that did not have the indentations on the outer drive face. 
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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2015, 12:21:28 AM »
Torque spec according to the service manual is 93.1 NM, which converts to 69 ft.lb. Impact works great to remove the nut, no holder needed. Putting the nut back on with an impact is risky. You DO NOT want to pinch the belt. I use my holder and ratchet the nut on. When it starts to pinch the belt I remove the holder and slowly keep tightening. At some point you will start to turn the motor over. This will loosen the belt. Once again, use the holder and tighten the nut a few turns. When you meet resistance, repeat the above. Just be patient. Once the nut is seated, use the holder and torque the nut.
Here's a link to the full service manual.

http://www.kymcousa.com/owners/onroad/People-GT-300i-Service-Manual.pdf
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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2015, 02:06:35 PM »
Thank you! - this is great info- you guys are awesome.

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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2015, 01:54:32 PM »
Sliders came in - I got a torque wrench and some materials to build the tool. I am almost ready! Wanted to check with you guys before proceeded though--are these the correct sliders?


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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2015, 02:07:57 AM »
yes they are good, 20/12  14 gram  ,.  look in the bottom of case you will see how to put them on, 
when you make your tool have the long piece long enough to hit the floor so it will not slip,

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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2015, 05:54:27 PM »
Well- I am happy and proud to report that I completed the install! I really could not have done it without all of your expert help-so thanks guys!
the paper crunch sound appears to be gone! there is a smoothing out sensation I can feel- and the sound of the engine is deeper now. When I come to a stop it is MUCH smoother. Anyway-thanks again!


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Re: Dr Pulley 14g install
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2015, 10:35:29 PM »
Well done!  Good feeling isn't it?  I'm a firm believer of wrenching on what you ride.   Sure is a good looking variator holder you have there. :)
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