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Re: New Kawasaki J300 scooter is really a Kymco Downtown 300
« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2014, 02:42:43 AM »
Had to think for a moment, and that really hurt.
  ya I seen the smoke on the horizon, 

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Re: New Kawasaki J300 scooter is really a Kymco Downtown 300
« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2014, 04:21:41 AM »
WHAT?
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Re: New Kawasaki J300 scooter is really a Kymco Downtown 300
« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2014, 02:24:56 PM »
Back to the show.
Here's the two scoots and other than cosmetics the "J" is a downtown with ABS.
Same seating that has been panned as "tight". Same everything except label.



Can't see a good reason to buy a "house label" kawasaki when the real one is available.

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« Reply #48 on: November 21, 2014, 05:42:17 PM »
Nicer lines on the Kawi!
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« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2014, 07:33:33 PM »
Besides the cosmetics there are subtle changes to the engine and CVT in the Kawasaki.
Availability of a decent local dealer could be one reason to choose the J300 over the Downtown.
Depreciation could be another.

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Re: New Kawasaki J300 scooter is really a Kymco Downtown 300
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2014, 04:03:17 PM »
"There is a Fifth Dimension beyond which is known to Man. It is a Dimension as vast as Space and as timeless as Infinity......It is an area which we call 'The Twilight Zone' .   "Rod Serling

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Re: New Kawasaki J300 scooter is really a Kymco Downtown 300
« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2014, 04:55:43 PM »
Besides the cosmetics there are subtle changes to the engine and CVT in the Kawasaki.
Availability of a decent local dealer could be one reason to choose the J300 over the Downtown.
Depreciation could be another.

Odds are that dealers techs haven't seen a scooter in a while. That dealer is also in the business of selling cycles and they always come first.  I'll wait to see the subtle changes. The fact that they would rebrand an entire scooter shows little commitment to the scooter market.

Depreciation. I bought a 2013 DT300 new OTD for under 3k and could repeat the process again and again. I start ahead of the depreciation curve.

If you look at the world thru "green eyes" than you see the "J" as something different, when in fact its a 4 year old design the day they roll it out.

Team Green took a short cut.

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Re: New Kawasaki J300 scooter is really a Kymco Downtown 300
« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2014, 05:00:26 PM »
Nicer lines on the Kawi!

Yes.
Not 2500.00 worth.


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« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2014, 10:17:36 PM »

Nice selfie , Z !

Thanks but it's actually a self portrait. I learned how to do that by watching PBS!  Bob Ross Rocked!
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« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2014, 10:21:29 PM »
Something you said hit me... If a customer brings me a weed wacker for repair, it will be MUCH lower on the list of things to do.
I repair boats. Weed wackers are a "cigarette/hippie grass" side line.

Now I really get it!
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Re: New Kawasaki J300 scooter is really a Kymco Downtown 300
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2014, 09:44:59 AM »
I have read somewhere Kawa changed the ECU on the J300 as well. Wonder what did they alter?! Why was a new/different ECU needed? Any ideas?
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« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2014, 09:49:58 AM »
Most likely a more aggressive Ign. timing curve, and a re-mapping of the injection. My guess is more throttle response, and perhaps a few more HP over the Kymco set up.

Just guessing here...
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« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2014, 01:26:57 PM »
Thanks but it's actually a self portrait. I learned how to do that by watching PBS!  Bob Ross Rocked!

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« Reply #58 on: November 23, 2014, 02:55:20 PM »
LOL LOL!
I actually did get into painting in his style, and used to teach the kids in the neighborhood how easy it was.
My daughter had a few friends over, and we started a painting where each of us could add something new to it or modify what the person before them did.
Brittney painted in a beautiful field of grass. The next kid (Tara) was jealous, and said... Now it's a lake!

I laughed my ASS off. Thanks for the memory Sis! That's one of the really great ones. Even my squirrel is happy.
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« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2014, 08:42:17 PM »
LOL LOL!
I actually did get into painting in his style, and used to teach the kids in the neighborhood how easy it was.
My daughter had a few friends over, and we started a painting where each of us could add something new to it or modify what the person before them did.
Brittney painted in a beautiful field of grass. The next kid (Tara) was jealous, and said... Now it's a lake!

I laughed my ASS off. Thanks for the memory Sis! That's one of the really great ones. Even my squirrel is happy.


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