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Re: Speeds on Agility 50
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2017, 11:52:43 PM »
How many grams of rolls is best to drive Malossi Multivar ?? I think I buy one, but I do not know which rolls to mount it, it comes with 6.5g, and I have 6.0 and 5.5g.

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Re: Speeds on Agility 50
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2017, 04:03:31 AM »
5,5 grams is definetly the way to go, both in terms of acceleration and in top speed.

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Re: Speeds on Agility 50
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2017, 01:33:10 AM »
5,5 grams is definetly the way to go, both in terms of acceleration and in top speed.
If you're sure 100% I'll trust you, because I'm tired of taking this variator. Still, I am 110 kg and the bike has 16 inches of wheels. The set comes with a white central spring.

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Re: Speeds on Agility 50
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2017, 06:01:49 AM »
Totally frustrated by Malossi Multivar, a complete joke. I installed it yesterday with the white spring, the scooter died totally at the start, barely moved to 10 km / h, then left slightly but was worse than the original variator. Slowly moving to 30 km / h,during that time he moves on pushing as if something stops him and runs afterwards,then things get better. Interestingly, something depends on the temperature of the engine when it is cold is totally dead, in the morning I had to push him down the hill from the garage and the first 2 km. Could not lift more than 10 km / h, I had to pick it up and force it several times to go normally bad. All of this is with 5.5 grams of rolls, today I put the original 6 grams of Malossi, to see what happens. Is not it a problem that I do not know what a jet is installed ??? The original variator is worn out and rolls along the rollers. Before I climbed the hills at 30 km / h, now I'm doing it at 20 km / h. What to do, I'm really disappointed for those 60 euros.
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Re: Speeds on Agility 50
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2017, 08:45:24 AM »
Mury, I haven't been on in well over a year but today is your lucky day I guess.

The issue is not likely the Malossi Multivar. I too have that with 6g rollers and the white spring installed. Your issue sounds more like an engine issue. The Malossi is an improvement over the original variator in nearly every way. The 6 g rollers should give better acceleration as well, and the white contra spring will provide an rpm increase as you hit hills/slopes. This should increase your climbing speed.

From the sounds of it, trying to understand what you're saying, the engine seems bogged down. This is not related to the variator. I have had many issues with stale/bad gas where the scooter just does not want to run hard and bogs down continuously. There could also be an issue with your carburetor being clogged up or dirty that would cause this. Another issue could be your valves are out of spec (not likely) or your spark plug is shot.

Your scooter will always lack power when not warmed up. It will be even worse in cold, wet, humid conditions.
You must be sure to let your scooter warm up for 2 minutes or so before you ride it. You should do this every time whether its cold out or warm out. If you start the scooter and ride it hard immediately you can hurt you piston/cylinder and lose engine power over time. On a cold engine the piston is smaller than the cylinder and there is little oil on the cylinder walls. This can cause blow-back which will gunk up the walls or worse you could score the walls due to lack of oil lubrication. This wont happen right away but over a period of time of not letting the engine warm up these issues can occur.

First I'd start by letting the scoot warm up before driving. Next I'd add some fuel stabilizer and carb cleaner to your gas. You can find some products that do both in one bottle. If that doesn't solve it then dig into the other things i discussed.

Hope this help.


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Re: Speeds on Agility 50
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2017, 03:13:28 AM »
Mury, I haven't been on in well over a year but today is your lucky day I guess.

The issue is not likely the Malossi Multivar. I too have that with 6g rollers and the white spring installed. Your issue sounds more like an engine issue. The Malossi is an improvement over the original variator in nearly every way. The 6 g rollers should give better acceleration as well, and the white contra spring will provide an rpm increase as you hit hills/slopes. This should increase your climbing speed.

From the sounds of it, trying to understand what you're saying, the engine seems bogged down. This is not related to the variator. I have had many issues with stale/bad gas where the scooter just does not want to run hard and bogs down continuously. There could also be an issue with your carburetor being clogged up or dirty that would cause this. Another issue could be your valves are out of spec (not likely) or your spark plug is shot.

Your scooter will always lack power when not warmed up. It will be even worse in cold, wet, humid conditions.
You must be sure to let your scooter warm up for 2 minutes or so before you ride it. You should do this every time whether its cold out or warm out. If you start the scooter and ride it hard immediately you can hurt you piston/cylinder and lose engine power over time. On a cold engine the piston is smaller than the cylinder and there is little oil on the cylinder walls. This can cause blow-back which will gunk up the walls or worse you could score the walls due to lack of oil lubrication. This wont happen right away but over a period of time of not letting the engine warm up these issues can occur.

First I'd start by letting the scoot warm up before driving. Next I'd add some fuel stabilizer and carb cleaner to your gas. You can find some products that do both in one bottle. If that doesn't solve it then dig into the other things i discussed.

Hope this help.

The problem was in the air, after the box that had been drilled. Apparently, with the new variator, we did not get the fuel, after we blocked the box, the scooter flipped. Now I fly like a bird, and with my 110 kg. Raises 60 on flat and 75 downhill.I'm very happy