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Scooters - 125 to 300 => LIKE 200i => Topic started by: donniemac on June 27, 2017, 10:17:25 PM
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Seems to run ok I thought the oil might be low because when I turned corner the light came on.looked low on oil .drove it again and light came back on after about 3 or 4 blocks.Stopped engine no light on.Not sure what it could be. Any help would be appreciated.
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You have a LIKE200I, correct?
Without starting your scooter - turn on the key.....the amber light below fuel gauge will light for 2 seconds. The light will then begin to blink if there is a problem, engine or electrical.
Do you have any blinks.
(this light is part of the scoot's self diagnostic system. )
To check oil level. - engine off for a minute ot three, insert dip-stick without screwing it in. Wiggle it a bit to paint the stick with oil. Take a look at it.
Please give us an update with what you find.
Stig
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Thanks will let you know what happens
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The light did blink after I did that. Any idea's.
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Yes.
The light will blink for a period of time ---- long and short.
This is the code telling you the problem...from a published list of issues.
So : 2 long blinks followed by 3 short blinks is fault #23. There will be a pause after this and it will either repeat the sequence again, or Heaven forbid - give you the code sequence for another problem...if there is more rhan one problem.
Chin up, some of the codes are telling you that you maxed the engine revs (going down hill?)....or have started the scooter with the throttle wide friggin open to the stops! So, stop doing that stuff!
After you get this sorted you can clear the codes...so scoot will be ready to self diagnose again.
The codes are found on cyclepedia.com if you buy the on-line serv manual....and maybe other places I'm not aware of.
Some of us LIKE200i owners have this manual and can help you.
Tell us what you found.
Stig
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Free downloadable service manual in PDF form here...https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5M0Qc-kvtYuWlJSSElyX0pfV2s/edit
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one long followed by six short
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That would be code 16. Here is the code chart reading from the free manual above. Remember when reading that this is Chinese translated into English.
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Yes, fault code came from engine temp sensor (cylinder head temperature sensor...a $40 part)...it works with the ECU & the oxygen sensor.
To see if it was a "one-off" fault detected, try clearing the fault code from the system.
STEPS:
KEY ON, WAIT 10 SECONDS....do NOT START scooter - just key on !
GIVE FULL THROTTLE AND HOLD 10 SECONDS
RELEASE THROTTLE.....after 5 seconds light will blink twice.
After light goes out the memory is cleared.
If light remains lit, trouble code is still present.
See what you find...
Stig
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Can you tell me the actual part name or number so I can order it?
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Can you tell me the actual part name or number so I can order it?
Is your scooter still under the 2yr warranty?
These sensors don't fail often....code could be sent after running high speeds, heating engine, low oil, bad oil, cheap gas (detonating with pre-ignition)
Have you spoken with the dealer?
Best way to locate parts and prices is to go to a parts web page.
Kymcopartsmonster.com is where many buy parts.
Once there
, search:
SCOOTER
200 CC
LIKE
look at cylinder head diagram for cylinder head temp sensor.
Price was @$40.
It is good to know how to find repair parts for your scooter.
Stig
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Is your scooter still under the 2yr warranty?
These sensors don't fail often....code could be sent after running high speeds, heating engine, low oil, bad oil, cheap gas (detonating with pre-ignition)
Have you spoken with the dealer?
Best way to locate parts and prices is to go to a parts web page.
Kymcopartsmonster.com is where many buy parts.
Once there
, search:
SCOOTER
200 CC
LIKE
look at cylinder head diagram for cylinder head temp sensor.
Price was @$40.
It is good to know how to find repair parts for your scooter.
Stig
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@donniemac
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Was this issue ever resolved? My 2014 Like 200i has been showing the same code 16. Thanks.
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Was this issue ever resolved? My 2014 Like 200i has been showing the same code 16. Thanks.
How is your scooter running?
If your scooter is running perfectly.....starts nearly instantly, idles nice, accelerates with no stumbles, reaches your normal top speed......then honestly I would not give it more concern.
I've seen this 16 code on other LIKE200i's and it has yet to indicate a real-life problem.
No clear idea why it develops -- but if your scoot starts & runs well....just start it and go.
After a few rides, you'll learn to ignore the blinks.
Stig
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Stig,
Thank you for your kind and prompt response. My like 200i seems to be running well in terms of the factors which you described. I do wonder whether it's running a bit rich, since I observe sooty deposits on the muffler below the tip of the exhaust. Also, my fuel economy hovers in the low 60s mpg. These two elements cause me to wonder in turn whether the cylinder head temperature sensor might be intermittently working, (as the engine light [CELP?] illuminates intermittently), and the fuel injection system defaults to fixed settings to insure continued operation.
I would be content to ignore the engine light except for two considerations: First, I would not want for the light being on consistently to mask any other engine problems or warnings which might arise. Second, should I decide to sell the 200i, I would feel awkward telling the buyer that there's nothing to worry about. I believe that it would actually discourage prospective buyers. I would hesitate in their place.
I plan to closely inspect the sensor for solid connections when I perform the next valve adjustment. If said connections appear to be in good order, I will purchase a replacement sensor. Since Kymco Parts Monster is now Motosport Monster and no longer offers Kymco OEM parts, would you have a suggestion for where I should look?
Many thanks.
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Check engine light coming on while scooter is running....yeah, not to be ignored. Red blinks as scooter starts and runs perfectly is something different.
With the LIKE200I starting instantly and running perfectly, and getting high 70'smpg, with nothing unusual at the tail pipe....I no longer pay much attention to a 16 code after 6 years.
A warning light while running would be an immediate concern.
Stig
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As for parts sellers, please see general subject, top of home page, parts sticky listed there under General topics.
Stig
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I am having the same problem. I picked up a '13 like 200. It started but ran rough. Rode it home while it surged and sputtered. The man i bought it from said he rode it very infrequently. It only has 350 miles on it. I drained the gas and put fresh 91 non ethanol gas. Now it wont start. It will burp every 20th or so try. The last owner had cut the silencer off and put on a truck glasspack muffler for some reason. I removed that and at the guidance of a local shop the suggested finding a similar replacement. When i try to start it now with a straight pipe, the engine just cranks and spits gas out of the pipe. Engine light blinks six times. Should I go ahead finding a muffler or replace that sensor mentioned above? Any advice would be appreciated
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I am having the same problem. I picked up a '13 like 200. It started but ran rough. Rode it home while it surged and sputtered. The man i bought it from said he rode it very infrequently. It only has 350 miles on it. I drained the gas and put fresh 91 non ethanol gas. Now it wont start. It will burp every 20th or so try. The last owner had cut the silencer off and put on a truck glasspack muffler for some reason. I removed that and at the guidance of a local shop the suggested finding a similar replacement. When i try to start it now with a straight pipe, the engine just cranks and spits gas out of the pipe. Engine light blinks six times. Should I go ahead finding a muffler or replace that sensor mentioned above? Any advice would be appreciated
OK, let's trouble-shoot a No Start Engine...
KILL Switch is ON - turn it off - the RED switch
When pulling the brake lever - does the brake light come on when key is on? NO? Stop right there and report back.
Check the fuses in the battery box (3 screws, under the floor)
Check the battery post connections are clean and tight
listen for fuel pump sound from inside the gas tank when you turn key on
spark plug cap loose or off (remove battery cover, then remove (2 side screws ) lower/center front panel. spark plug is behind there)
At only 350 miles - nothing is worn out - hopefully previous owner hasn't been fooling with the engine.
Let us know what you find.
Stig
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Battery, terminals, fuses, and lights are all good. I can hear the fuel pump whine when i turn the ignition. Because of the straight pipe i get gas shooting out so i know for sure its pumping. Checked plug on saturday and had good spark but ill get another one incase its getting fouled. A scooter mechanic i talked to said that because of the straight exhaust, its not getting enough back pressure. Does that make sense? Ive never had an EFI bike/scooter. I got a mower muffler at the hardware store and will mount that tonight along with the new plug and respond findings tomorrow
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Battery, terminals, fuses, and lights are all good. I can hear the fuel pump whine when i turn the ignition. Because of the straight pipe i get gas shooting out so i know for sure its pumping. Checked plug on saturday and had good spark but ill get another one incase its getting fouled. A scooter mechanic i talked to said that because of the straight exhaust, its not getting enough back pressure. Does that make sense? Ive never had an EFI bike/scooter. I got a mower muffler at the hardware store and will mount that tonight along with the new plug and respond findings tomorrow
Yeah, you're kinda breaking new ground here - have not heard from owners cutting off the LIKE's muffler. No idea what that might cause. It has to be giving the ECU fits.
Had a brand new (carbed) CB350 Honda years ago - we broke the exhaust off during a 24 hour enduro - it kept running fine. Just made it easy to spot when coming in for a night rider change - the blue flame shooting out was pretty cool coming across the Texas desert.
This figures to be interesting. You should have a good scooter when you get it sussed.
Stig
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Yeah, you're kinda breaking new ground here - have not heard from owners cutting off the LIKE's muffler. No idea what that might cause. It has to be giving the ECU fits.
Had a brand new (carbed) CB350 Honda years ago - we broke the exhaust off during a 24 hour enduro - it kept running fine. Just made it easy to spot when coming in for a night rider change - the blue flame shooting out was pretty cool coming across the Texas desert.
This figures to be interesting. You should have a good scooter when you get it sussed.
Stig
Changed plug and nothing changed. Still just cranking. The first plug was sparking but it was white. Gonna have to find a different muffler, anyone have a spare 1†ID silencer laying around. Ive got an old supertrapp but its a tad too big. I wouldnt mind the flames. My TT500 shoots fire and doesnt bother me, i just want it to run. A whole new exhaust is about 300 and im just trying to flip this thing.
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Changed plug and nothing changed. Still just cranking. The first plug was sparking but it was white. Gonna have to find a different muffler, anyone have a spare 1†ID silencer laying around. Ive got an old supertrapp but its a tad too big. I wouldnt mind the flames. My TT500 shoots fire and doesnt bother me, i just want it to run. A whole new exhaust is about 300 and im just trying to flip this thing.
Kymco Like muffler, $170 free shipping, ebay.
Stig
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Kymco Like muffler, $170 free shipping, ebay.
Stig
You in Boca Raton?